re: Gun control Compromise

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So you want background checks removed from purchasing a gun in any capacity. Got it

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If it's between that and requiring them for all transactions, then yes.

Unashamedly, unabashedly yes.

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2. Put forth the "compromise" that a license must be had in order to carry concealed or unconcealed in public with the caveat that a uniform, simple, and inexpensive system to obtain carry license be put in place across all states . ( keep in mind that despite the liberal narrative, this is already for the most part a requirement with the exception of a few constitutional carry states.)

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Unacceptable. It’s a solution looking for a problem

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3. Put forth the "compromise" that any gun purchased must be preceded by a background check and purchased from a physical location. Include stores and gun shows and require all gun shows to have a private owner transfer booth (Once again keep in mind that the gun show loophole is a myth anyways.)

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Unacceptable. The language of firearms sales is TRANSFER. And any rule as proposed would have catastrophic “unintended consequences”. Example: under this rule it would be illegal to loan a firearm without 4473 paperwork. No one under 18 would be allowed to hunt, target shoot, sport shoot as they would not be able to pass a 4473 NICS check. Example: no loaning an adult a firearm without 4473.

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4. Put forth a new law outlawing all automatic weapons (once again already exists despite the narrative)

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NFA laws restrict but do not ban the procession of full auto, explosive, suppressed, short barreled items.

What you propose is flawed and does nothing but retreat on this issue and sprung from the mind of someone with “limited” to no knowledge of firearms, firearms laws, firearms sales, or background checks.


Here is an actual working improvement:
NICS is the set of database, actually 5 databases that are utilized to conduct instant background checks nationwide. The end user (FFL 01 holder) has standards and benchmarks of time that must be meet regarding use of paperwork, storage of paperwork, accuracy of paperwork. Failure to meet these standards ends in criminal and civil punishment. There exists no such standards for those entering the data.

My “Gun Control that makes the most sense”

Set a standard and timeline for data to be entered into the NICS databases. Require military, courts , law enforcement, mental health providers, etc in line with the expectations set forward for end users. Until and unless this is done with both civil and criminal fines and punishments the NICS is failing in its mission set forth by Brady.

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No compromise, not ever.

Stick to the 2A word for word.

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Unless your civil rights have been reduced via due process then the limitations of firearms should be budgetary. You want a tank and ammo? Buy it. You want the same fighter jet we export? Buy it. You want a light cruiser for your private navy? Buy it.

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compromise

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Slippery, slippery slope. The Dems are famous for viewing "compromise" as a green light for "anything goes". Just take a look around...

He is the party now, and “almost” every single republican in America practically worships him.

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So we're back to saying one thing and then having to reword it later on? Got it.

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Not at all.

I said background checks...as we have now. But with your extreme focus on Words and your use of ALL transactions, I needed to clarify that it didn’t include peer to peer sales.

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But sure, do away with them. I don't think it really helps anything. You think these animals gunning each other down in NYC, LA, Detroit, NOLA, Chicago wait around for up to an hour at Academy like you and I do? They manage to get their hands on weaponry just fine.

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You buy guns at Academy and wait an hour for a background check?? Lol yikes.

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He is the party now, and “almost” every single republican in America practically worships him.

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I don't think you can prove that statement at all.

I also notice you dodged the question, as predicted.

Nice try, coward.

You dont negotiate with terrorists

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I said background checks...as we have now. But with your extreme focus on Words and your use of ALL transactions, I needed to clarify that it didn’t include peer to peer sales.

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NICS is the system used to get your background checks down. And it is seriously flawed. Flawed to the point of being useless honestly.

And if peer to peer is good then the gun show loop hole is good. Because the gun show loophole literally is when an individual goes to sell to another individual. Usually the seller will walk around with a sign or the item they wish to sell and sells it someone “off the books”. FFL holders do not do this because they would go to jail if caught.

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I didn’t imply I was curious in your line of work or what permits you have. However, given your responses to ppl who most likely agree with 99% of your firearm view...I can tell you were the cop that had an absolute hard on to write a ticket and an a-hole on a routine traffic stops...

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Didn't write many tickets, actually. In fact a large portion of traffic stops I was made were effected for the HIDTA task force guys. They always had a few uniform guys attached to their TF. Often we'd make the contact, conduct the stop, issue a written warning and turn them over to them. Writing tickets meant spending time in court. I worked graves almost exclusively and the holdover until court was a PITA.

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But to answer your straw man argument, no, I don’t think any “common sense” guns laws will stop criminals from getting firearms. As I stated earlier, common sense guns laws proposed by the left aren’t founded in common sense. I did agree with the OP on a strategy to win back the narrative. But you want to argue over semantics...which falls in line with the left and a-hole cops. I’m not surprised. Maybe that’s why you were a cop n multiple states...kept getting fired.

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Never fired. I policed in one very large metro in the SE and my wife took a job across the country so I joined a larger metro out west.

Anyway, my point remains - I don't think background checks are stopping the lion's share of street crimes. I can say that based on many years of first-hand experience. Those that complete the 4473 are far and away NOT those doing the shooting.