re: Great American John Rocker corrects Dem propagandist JoJoFromJerz

There are lots of crops you harvest in winter....IN LATIN AMERICA. So, they should have stayed there.

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Make NOT working more uncomfortable, then they will take third-world jobs. As long as they can still get their hair and nails done, own a car, own a cell phone, etc. then there is no need for them to work.

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I am absolutely on board with all of this. But killing subsidies for not working is a totally different subject.

We're still going to need legal migrant farm workers. Antwan from the Tom Brown Village in Birmingham isn't going to CA to pick vegetables. He's going to rob me first because that's easier. We've got an entire shitty culture to destroy before we can make the dream of half of Americans not being lazy a reality again.

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Why can't those farmers, who are heavily subsidized already, go through the work visa process and keep the very system that subsidizes them in check?

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You won’t hear me defend the hiring practices and the identity theft that goes into it.

Personally I’d bring back something resembling the bracero program if we have to rely upon immigrant labor.

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If you knew how many low skilled Americans places like construction companies go through to put crews together your head would spin. All those guys who don’t have the experience or fit that type of work and get fired, laid off etc would gladly pick crops, drive trucks if there wasn’t a giant underpaid, immigrant workforce already doing it.

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I was part of building a manufacturing business from the ground up a few years ago. I saw first hand how it was.

We do have plenty of those hard working people left, but most aren't willing or able to go where those farm jobs are.

I absolutely believe that, if they are willing, we should create a job network that, perhaps, shuttles them seasonally between home and field, or connects them with these jobs.

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Off the top of my head, navel oranges, blood oranges, grapefruit, tangerines, kumquats, lemons, beets, cabbage, chard, mushrooms, kale, cauliflower, celery, and avocados typically have a January harvest.

This doesn't include crops like winter wheat and several root vegetables.

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Betting Elon could come up with a fancy EV harvesting truck and we wouldn't need anymore illegal alien slaves.

You’re right but if you know anybody in small, low skilled labor businesses that hire immigrants you’ll find there’s usually 1 guy who runs his own crew then his underlings are basically a revolving door that the employer doesn’t even have to fool with. It’s just easier to hire that way, they can be subbed and there’s no paperwork so instead of going through the red tape and responsibility of hiring a citizen they can hire disposable people they’re not even responsible for.

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Do you think illegals in liberal Cali aren't showing up to farms today because of Trump? Do you really buy that?

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No I don’t. They’re picking winter crops like every other year. That wasn’t my point.

But sooner or later this administration will get into workplace raids. That’s when the real fun will begin. Corporate America will shite a brick because they have become dependent on quasi-slave labor imported from other countries.

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legal migrant farm workers.

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To which, I have no problem. Clearly, if we make life more uncomfortable, we will need to build a few more prisons for those who chose crime over any work.

If Green Chili types it, its usually a lie

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Cabbage plants will either stop growing or they'll send up flowers and focus on seed production once the temperatures rise above 80 degrees F. Nearing the end of cool spring weather, is time to go ahead and harvest cabbage.

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January aint spring, sport. Never has been

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To which, I have no problem. Clearly, if we make life more uncomfortable, we will need to build a few more prisons for those who chose crime over any work.

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I'm all for it.