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re: GOP elections are futile unless they adopt the ballot collection effort.

Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:31 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68612 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:31 am to
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Voting on your phone or tablet through a definitely safe and secure app.


Voting on a block chain might be better than what we currently have.

And what we have is a farce. Here it is Saturday morning and these people still can’t count votes.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 9:32 am
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:41 am to
The red counties need to hold back their votes until the big urban area tabulate.(won't happen)
All rep. state legislatures need to stop mail in ballots, only mail when registered voters request(won't happen)

We are fricked
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98785 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:43 am to
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Collecting ballots is were it's at now. Voting is so yesterday.


If the GOP can break into the Democrat ballot collection scheme just 20% that is a game changer


And once the GOP starts doing it and winning, the Dems will scream to get rid of it.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4993 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:47 am to
Dude, democrats have built ground games that trade booze and “walking around” money in the urban centers for a century. Opening ballots to mail and collection with no proper chain of custody or identity requirements has just made it impossible to catch them at it. Republicans - those who care - will never catch up or overcome that. We have to end those corrupt processes, not walk right into a game we can never win.

If you had the same collection and mail efforts in Alabama, the state would turn blue practically overnight. It’s that bad.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 9:48 am
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:50 am to
That's diffe(R)ent.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4142 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:52 am to
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If you had the same collection and mail efforts in Alabama, the state would turn blue practically overnight. It’s that bad.


Obviously. The cheating (Ballot Harvesting) has gone nuclear. This means that there is no real representation. Its all rigged.
This will lead us to Civil war.

If the Rs actual represented its voters, there might have been a chance, but that ship has sailed.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:54 am to
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The right needs to unite and stop bickering. Independents will decide all future races.


So independents will decide the race but you shouldn't make the platform more inclusionary?

Huh? Are you praying the Democrats don't make theirs more inclusionary in this scenario?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146767 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:55 am to
Didn't PA have a month to VOTE EARLY MANY TIMES AT THEIR MAILBOXES BIDEN PAID THE USPS TO PLACE?

The GOP establishment don't even really need to cheat. Pay someone in Philly, Pit, Uniontown, State College, New Castle, to make 45,000 ballots from fake P.O. Boxes.

Then have a bon fire weeny roast somewhere and say oops lost them maybe they are in a trunk of a tree? AFTER THEY ARE COUNTED AND ENTERED AS VOTES

Visit nursing homes/hospitals, graveyards online and make some more ballots up with the correct date No ID needed.

Order enough mailboxes and collect from them early and often. (Send the USPS SEIU a Check for 53Mil from Ronna's old fund after she is fired) and they will have some R ballots placed in the boxes already.

If the vote goes to 190% voted, just don't report it to the AP.

If the democrats belly ache about it, call them election denier conspiracy theorists in unison.

Also the FBI and DOJ were watching and they sent Cackle's husband to poll watch. So send some Marshal's and special forces to guard the polls like Obama & Holder did with the black panthers.

Also in AZ how can the SOS run for Gov. and be in charge of the votes at the same time? I don't GAF if Kemp or whoever also did this they are garbage.
This post was edited on 11/12/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12177 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:55 am to
Is it legal to ballot harvest. For example can I go around to the 100 houses in my neighborhood and help the 300 registered voters apply for a mail in ballot then two weeks later help them fill it out then take it with me and at the end of the week bring 300 ballots to a post office box and drop it in.

Honest question. Because this is what the Democrats do in Atlanta.

If this is illegal you can bet the FBI and DOJ will put people in jail for years if done in Republican areas.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39475 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:56 am to
It would be twice as hard though.

Sparsely populated red rural areas spread out over vast geographical areas make it tough. Dems just need to canvass cities.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51612 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:59 am to
Downvote.

It shouldn't be about being better at taking advantage of election insecurities nor having less integrity than the opposing party, it should be about pushing and passing election integrity laws in as many states as possible.

Voter IDs required.
No mass-mailing of ballots.
Only individually requested absentee ballots are allowed.
No harvesting allowed.

The end.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:00 am to
Hire the local mob to run it, and it will succeed.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:04 am to
Never go full retard. ;)
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:04 am to
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Voting on your phone or tablet through a definitely safe and secure app.


I believe many states do it already, but add nationwide online voter registration.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422468 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:11 am to
Been arguing this since mid-2020
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:11 am to
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you are discounting the anti democracy effort of Ohio state legislatures to gerrymander so that although Ohio is majority democrat the shape of districts provides Ohio several more members of house than democrats.you ok with that?

Do they look like this?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422468 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:12 am to
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It shouldn't be about being better at taking advantage of election insecurities nor having less integrity than the opposing party, it should be about pushing and passing election integrity laws in as many states as possible.

Wait what?

Winning elections is about turnout. This is just a method of turnout the GOP can't ignore anymore.

There is no less issue of integrity than any other election in human history.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4993 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:17 am to
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f the Rs actual represented its voters, there might have been a chance, but that ship has sailed.



And that's one reason there will never be a civil war. Already, most republicans are buying the narrative that 'Trump lost the mid-terms' and will soon be lining up behind a spread of corporate bought stooges on the GOP ticket. America will drown in globalism and we'll all ride that sinking ship into the depths.

And there will never be secession or civil war because every state owes too much of their economy to federal spending. At this point, they can't survive without the monopoly money.

It's bleak but there's just not enough who give a damn The frog has boiled.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21588 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:18 am to
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GOP leadership needs to match Democrat ballot collection efforts.


More lazy people are democrat...
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 10:22 am to
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So independents will decide the race but you shouldn't make the platform more inclusionary?


Who is being excluded? You no standards "lets evolve to every ones whim" approach is not sustainable long term. At least the Right is able to know their fundamentals and stick to them.
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