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re: God damn it- Final tax bill will allow child credit to be refundable against payroll taxes
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
who gives a shite. everyone that works pays taxes. every week. federal, some state, local, fica... It all goes into a pot, down the hole.
I appreciate the fact that I can work and worship GOD and live in peace.
I appreciate the fact that I can work and worship GOD and live in peace.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
frick this bullshite
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:33 pm to digitalis
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Ridiculous, plenty of poor white trump supporters benefit from this deduction. That's the reason they put it back.
Most of the non college educated trump voters are not poor. They would be middle class blue collar workers
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Education status was a marked difference, not income
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:59 pm to HeadLightBanDit
quote:So just shut up and pay up? The poor need to see an increase in taxes. They don't pay their "fair share."
How about you just go to work, pay your taxes like a good citizen and worry about you and yours like we do.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 11:27 pm to Jake88
They need "skin in the game" so in the future, when these cuts are due to sunset, they will give a shite about tax policy.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:05 am to mahdragonz
Meh, I'll pay a decent amount less and I'm not rich.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:34 am to HeadLightBanDit
The Best in this entire thread was from HEADlIGHANDIT.
Whyon earth do some of you think that living the life of the 30k earner is some kind of good life? Because you get a tax break (a bit) and have some government assistance (a bit) with life?
You will probably be living in an extremely dangerous neighborhood. Okay let me take that back, there are tons of poors in rural America like where I visit (the Catskills) but they are living in areas where if things are not dangerous, they are totally decrepit. Brown water from the faucet life.
Your schools will suck. You will have no-one near you being a role model because Uncle Larry is in Sing-Sing, Aunt Mary is dying of Heroin, your older brother has not been seen in years and your sister does porn.
Why do some of you have this image that the life of the American poor is on the beach in Miami sipping cocktails?
And I am sorry, I have read all the stories about the Lexus driving lady buying food with food stamps. There is something else going on there in that situation, drug dealing or something. And eventually that will end with Angola. Might take a year or two or three but that is the end.
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Whyon earth do some of you think that living the life of the 30k earner is some kind of good life? Because you get a tax break (a bit) and have some government assistance (a bit) with life?
You will probably be living in an extremely dangerous neighborhood. Okay let me take that back, there are tons of poors in rural America like where I visit (the Catskills) but they are living in areas where if things are not dangerous, they are totally decrepit. Brown water from the faucet life.
Your schools will suck. You will have no-one near you being a role model because Uncle Larry is in Sing-Sing, Aunt Mary is dying of Heroin, your older brother has not been seen in years and your sister does porn.
Why do some of you have this image that the life of the American poor is on the beach in Miami sipping cocktails?
And I am sorry, I have read all the stories about the Lexus driving lady buying food with food stamps. There is something else going on there in that situation, drug dealing or something. And eventually that will end with Angola. Might take a year or two or three but that is the end.
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:13 am to jamboybarry
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The fact that having fricking kids is tied to income taxes is mind boggling if you step back and think about it
From each according to his ability to each according to his need
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:27 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So it reduces the amount the poorest Americans pay into one of the true safety nets, reducing what they are eligible for on retirement? Would it likewise reduce the max payout eligibility if you ever had kids and took the credit?
Republicans as dead set on killing Social Security. Wonder how this squares with Trump's campaign promise.
Republicans as dead set on killing Social Security. Wonder how this squares with Trump's campaign promise.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:32 am to Eurocat
quote:I'd guess you missed his point.
Whyon earth do some of you think that living the life of the 30k earner is some kind of good life? Because you get a tax break (a bit) and have some government assistance (a bit) with life?
The reason the War on Poverty HAS NEVER WORKED is that it deemphasizes, and even punishes, responsible behavior. As responsible behavior is the single most important variable in breaking bonds of intergenerational poverty, its deemphasis delivers horrid results.
I believe HeadLightBanDit was making a similar observation concerning this bill.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:36 am to Eurocat
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Brown water from the faucet life.
Living the high life in Ferriday
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
And the liars in the democrat party (I e every one of them) will still say it is a giveaway to the rich
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:51 am to Eurocat
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Whyon earth do some of you think that living the life of the 30k earner is some kind of good life? Because you get a tax break (a bit) and have some government assistance (a bit) with life?
You will probably be living in an extremely dangerous neighborhood. Okay let me take that back, there are tons of poors in rural America like where I visit (the Catskills) but they are living in areas where if things are not dangerous, they are totally decrepit. Brown water from the faucet life.
Your schools will suck. You will have no-one near you being a role model because Uncle Larry is in Sing-Sing, Aunt Mary is dying of Heroin, your older brother has not been seen in years and your sister does porn.
Why do some of you have this image that the life of the American poor is on the beach in Miami sipping cocktails?
And I am sorry, I have read all the stories about the Lexus driving lady buying food with food stamps. There is something else going on there in that situation, drug dealing or something. And eventually that will end with Angola. Might take a year or two or three but that is the end.
You typed a lot of hyperbole, but let me break it down for you. It may not be the “good life,” but it is absolutely the lazy life. It may be hard to break the cycle and get out of that life, but it is possible and requires only hard work and perseverance. There are multitudes of govt programs, educational opportunities, etc. available if only people in those situations would put forth the effort. But they don’t, because it’s hard or different or whatever.
The rest of us should not have to subsidize laziness and an overall drag on society. You’ll never get it because you’re okay with the laziness, even though it benefits neither the person nor society at large.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:53 am to homesicktiger
But the moochers vote democrat so the GOp-e must get in there and throw money at them to win some of those votes
Just like how they have to let every dreg into the country
Just like how they have to let every dreg into the country
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The ad I have been getting on the side here has been about how I could get 2600 a month in "disability" benefits.
Free money!
Big arch conservative site this is I tell you. I have never searched anything about that.
Free money!
Big arch conservative site this is I tell you. I have never searched anything about that.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:48 am to homesicktiger
quote:It is also life often based on income levels which comprise median household income in many European Countries.
but let me break it down for you. It may not be the “good life,” but it is absolutely the lazy life.
And travesty of Flint Michigan aside, the "brown water" statement is just stupid.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:01 am to YoungManOldMan
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I find it ridiculous you can actually make money from filing taxes.
What do you mean? My accountant makes bank off me filing taxes everty year.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Will be interesting to see CBO scoring on this.
Final tax bill will allow child credit to be refundable against payroll taxes
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:08 am to zunic
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You should try to read up on the rest of the bill to understand the totality of what it accomplishes.
Tell us about it.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:05 am to mahdragonz
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The bill is designed to give the wealthy tax breaks.
Why would you think it does anything else?
Well, since they are the ones that pay most of the taxes, should they not get most of the breaks?
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