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re: Gerrymandering is anti democratic BS no matter who is doing it

Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:36 am to
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3876 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:36 am to
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quote: “Flooding the country will illegal immigrants so that the dishonest census makers can add Democrat districts is treason. “

I hate when you guys do this BS. You know damn well that both sides abuse the piss out of this. This factually isn't just a democrat issue.


Republicans do not support illegal immigrants being counted in the census and being used to apportion congressional seats.

They do gerrymander, but that is a completely different issue than quote you took issue with.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8755 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 12:39 am to
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Gerrymandering is anti democratic BS no matter who is doing it


Draw a district that looks like a dick. That would probably make you happy.
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 12:39 am
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:31 am to
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You're right . Rs should just roll over and let the Dems continue to rout the Rs out of every blue state. Let's do nothing and see how that works out in another 10 years


Correct. The whole principled, just want to be left alone conservative better learn to play dirty or they will continue to get trounced by those who will use power to get the desired results.

Win by any means necessary.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138865 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:07 am to
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Gerrymandering is anti democratic BS no matter who is doing it

Here were examples of Gerrymandering in 2020.


This new redistricting actually looks like Texas is un-gerrymandering their map
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
836 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 5:33 am to
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Uhhhmmmm.... they both already do it. California is just threatening to make it even worse. I think I read that 40% of California voted for Trump and yet Republicans only have 17% of California’s congressional districts. It’s even worse for New York. Maryland is a complete fricking joke.


This actually isn’t that bad. A common rule of thumb political scientists use when evaluating gerrymandering is that the majority party should receive roughly double its margin of victory in legislative seats. So if a party wins a state 60–40%, that’s a 20-point margin — and they should expect to win about 80% of the seats.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4898 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:15 am to
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We drew a very fair and balanced set of districts that looked like blocks
Shouldn’t people have a right to representation?

If you have a square area and divide it up into 4 equal quadrants and get 4 republican majority districts, or divide it into 4 equal vertical strips and get 2 dem and 2 republican, then which is the correct districting in your opinion?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10622 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:54 am to
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If Texas does this and then California and NY counter, wtf has anyone gained but less competitive districts so less accountability.


So Republicans should just roll over and take it.

CA is already 42-9, how much more can they do?

You didn't bitch when Illinois did it - why is that?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23998 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:02 am to
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but you cant let some states do it and not others.

Democrats have fought for it and republicans haven't until now.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50496 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:04 am to
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I hate when you guys do this BS. You know damn well that both sides abuse the piss out of this. This factually isn't just a democrat issue.




once again, dummy, it's only the Democrats who flood the country with illegal immigrants and thus run game on the census


I'm not going to apologize to you for me being correct on this entire point. You should apologize to yourself for bad reading comprehension.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17466 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:16 am to
Where was the media and Dem outrage when this was passed?



Why the outrage now??????
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1166 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:23 am to
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We drew a very fair and balanced set of districts that looked like blocks

So you dont understand how population density works.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:38 am to
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If you have a square area and divide it up into 4 equal quadrants and get 4 republican majority districts, or divide it into 4 equal vertical strips and get 2 dem and 2 republican, then which is the correct districting in your opinion?


You won’t, because people don’t live in neat little blocks or grids along political lines. They live in clumps and fingers, like the weird gerrymandered districts illustrate, and more often along demographic divisions than strict political divisions.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:44 am to
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I don’t care if it is my party doing it. It means my party will not be accountable to its members, and the same mfers will decide everything.


And look how well playing by a different set of rules than the Democrats worked for the Republicans.

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If we are just going to have Democratic Districts and Republican districts the parties will never be accountable to anyone but special interests and we are fooling ourselves to think we have a democratic republic, we don’t.


Well, when the slime on the left begin to redistrict honestly, then Republicans can follow suit. But they'd be complete fools to do what the left wants them to do.

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If Texas does this and then California and NY counter,


California, New York, and Illinois already do this, chief. Keep up.

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wtf has anyone gained but less competitive districts so less accountability.



Ask California. They are hemorrhaging voters yet still, somehow, manage to keep control. How could that happen without ole gerry?

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:45 am to
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Democrats have fought for it and republicans haven't until now.
It doesn't matter. An activist judge will reverse it, be it on the state or federal level.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22060 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:47 am to
what do you call undoing gerrymandering?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:49 am to
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I hate when you guys do this BS. You know damn well that both sides abuse the piss out of this. This factually isn't just a democrat issue.


But the disaster that Democrats create when they gain power absolutely is 1 sided. This isn't the 1980s, where it really didnt' matter who was in control, because both sides wanted what was best for America and it's principles. The left want full out marxism. They don't hide from it. I'm not going to get high and mighty when my kids futures are on the line. Because if you get your way, and in 30 years, the Republicans play fairly, but the democrats have redistricted every state and have total control, and you are forced into government housing, government grocery stores, government run everything, and America is no more, will you pat yourself on the back and say, "well at least i did what was right" while your child starves to death?
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2904 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:56 am to
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If Texas does this and then California and NY counter, wtf has anyone gained but less competitive districts so less accountability.


they already do dumbarse, win elections attain a majority call the shots. that's our system simple jack.

Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3317 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:12 am to
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These strategies were used to prevent black southerners from having a fair shot at voting or electing a representative who would promote their causes
Your professor was a psychic. You should’ve asked him for lottery numbers. Maybe 1 out of 10 blacks voted into office have not been a criminal who does nothing but enrich themselves.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24459 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:43 am to
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A common rule of thumb political scientists use when evaluating gerrymandering is that the majority party should receive roughly double its margin of victory in legislative seats.


But you also have to figure in the fact that there are a few states (like California) who are extremely “accommodating“ when it comes to allowing illegals to vote. It’s never really challenged because Republicans aren’t going to win there anyway. So they get away with it. In actuality, as far as legal votes, I’m sure Trump got more than 40% of the votes in California.
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1155 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 10:56 am to
TX is actually Un-gerrymandering! So you approve?
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