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re: Georgia Senate race: Proof of why candidate quality matters

Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9573 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:01 pm to
Was Fetterman a "quality candidate"?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23313 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:05 pm to
Candidates dont matter....

The agenda does.

People will ignore really bad stuff on politicians, if they will give you what you want!
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10386 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:23 pm to
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I don’t know why so many republicans struggle with campaigning. There is an art to it.

So, once again, tell us about the great campaigns of biden, Fetterman, hobbs, etc. Especially compared to the people they were running against.

It’s amusing watching yall twist yourselves into all sorts of knots trying to explain the results of the last 2 elections.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35784 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:31 pm to
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Because it’s the part you ‘muh candidate quality’ morons always forget to address for some strange reason.

Why would I address an irrelevant point? Democratic candidate or campaign quality has NOTHING to do with whether Republicans ran quality candidates or campaigns.

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What did hobbs do to win the votes of moderates/centrists and republicans that didn’t want to vote for lake?

Sit there and say nothing and let Lake do all the work.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35784 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:33 pm to
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So, once again, tell us about the great campaigns of biden, Fetterman, hobbs, etc. Especially compared to the people they were running against.

How many times do you need to be told that Democrats have an easier path in this regard before you accept it to be true?

They harvest urban votes en masse and have the media carrying their water. Like it or not, it makes it much easier to win disinterested voters for Democrats.

Republicans voters do not line up and vote for party as Democrats do. It really is that simple. The GOP has to run better people to win.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52398 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:34 pm to
My point was Lake and Masters were good candidates that got the same result.

I not sure if you believe this or not but Democrats are cheating like a mfer.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35784 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Was Fetterman a "quality candidate"?

No.

Did he win because Shapiro drug him along since Mastriano was a moron and because Oz had a “Trump” albatross on his neck?

Yes.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14454 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:37 pm to
Lesson: the uni-party establishment allows establishment candidates to win.

No one ever corrected the rigged 2020 election when all the swing states went to take a smoke break and Biden was suddenly winning when they resumed counting.

Why would they stop what no one will do anything about?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35784 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:37 pm to
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I not sure if you believe this or not but Democrats are cheating like a mfer.

Saying this after every single election and using it to excuse issues within the party and it’s primaries only makes the issue worse.

One of these days you guys are just going to have to understand that the GOP will not win these purple suburban areas again as long as Donald Trump is calling the shots.

He’s toxic to those people and it simply does not matter whether that toxicity is justified. It’s there and it’s permanent.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10386 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Why would I address an irrelevant point?

Because no matter how many times you say it, it’s not irrelevant.

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Democratic candidate or campaign quality has NOTHING to do with whether Republicans ran quality candidates or campaigns.

Candidate quality has to do with winning elections, according to you. Maybe one day you’ll be able to address why you only want to talk about one sides candidate quality but not the other. Apparently today is not that day.

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Sit there and say nothing and let Lake do all the work

Oh look, another question you’re afraid to answer.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125636 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:44 pm to
The GOPe are trying to message their way to winning a war.

They still don’t understand you win a war by fighting. Not by marketing.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10386 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:47 pm to
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How many times do you need to be told that Democrats have an easier path in this regard before you accept it to be true?

As many times as it will take for you to provide an actual logically consistent argument that it is true I suppose.

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They harvest urban votes en masse and have the media carrying their water. Like it or not, it makes it much easier to win disinterested voters for Democrats.

They have horrifically bad policies that make voters lives worse, to the point that everyone sees and feels it in their everyday lives. Like it or not, that it makes it much more difficult to win independent and moderate voters for democrats.

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Republicans voters do not line up and vote for party as Democrats do. It really is that simple. The GOP has to run better people to win.

This is the part where you only explain, again, why independents and moderates aren’t voting for republicans, but fail to explain, again, why they are voting for democrats. I look forward to your next failure to provide an answer with great anticipation.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135731 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:01 pm to
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Oz had a “Trump” albatross on his neck?
Come on. You are far better than attributing the Oz loss to Trump. Mastriano? Yeah, he was definitely a ticket drag.

But, now look at a real measurable ... e.g., funding. Fetterman, a brain-stroked, Frankenstein lurch, outraised and outspent Oz by 30%! Can we stay focused and get to the bottom of that? ... For a start?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:04 pm to
Get to the bottom of what? Big money spent on elections?
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1374 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:09 pm to
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If the takeaway is Walker lost because he was a poor candidate, or Oz lost because he was a poor candidate, then the GOP will get its clock cleaned again in 2 years.

In close races in swing states, you don't nominate candidates with a lot of baggage. Is it really that hard to comprehend? With the tide so much against the Dems with incumbency, inflation, history and a hundred other things working against them, how do you think they pulled off these close victories in purple states? Only because of who the GOP put up as candidates.

Any mainstream Republican would have won, and would have won handily, and you'd agree too if you were being honest, especially in the current environment. Why did it have to be crazy candidates like Mastriano, Walker, Masters, Oz etc. Independents and moderates would not vote for folks like these, even if they nomally leaned slightly conservative and voted Republican more often than not.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47793 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:15 pm to
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In close races in swing states, you don't nominate candidates with a lot of baggage.


Warnock literally tried to kill his ex-wife fairly recently.
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1374 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:43 pm to
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Warnock literally tried to kill his ex-wife fairly recently.

Again, to use a football analogy - "You control what you can on your own team and put them in the best position to win. Forget what the other team is doing."
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33410 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:47 pm to
Explain Fetterman
or Al Franken
or Jerry Nadler
or Maxine Waters
or Kamala Harris
or the other guy, also from Georgia who thought Guam might tip over if we added too many soldiers?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:51 pm to
Add Joe Biden to that list. He came in fourth in Iowa Dem primary in 2020. And really struggled all the way through.

Yet “81” million
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13643 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:06 pm to
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They don’t want to hear that. Fetterman won as a bad candidate


You mis-spelled mental patient.

I knew we were fricked when that doormat won.

Guys I worked with at in Geismar are smarter than that dumbass (and they bought plenty of Z71s to match their trailers). But the (D) need to win, rite?
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