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re: Georgia Senate race: Proof of why candidate quality matters
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:12 pm to saintforlife1
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:12 pm to saintforlife1
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You are missing the point. You can't control what the other party does or who they nominate. But if the Republicans had nominated a vanilla country club Republican vs. the bozos they actually did, they sure as heck would have won the PA and GA Senate (and possibly AZ) seats and the AZ governorship.
They don’t want to hear that. Fetterman won as a bad candidate and thus all bad candidates should be able to win and any bad GOP candidate not winning can only be attributable to either secret RNC schemes or voter fraud.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:13 pm to tjv305
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Why would you not use the same election for this comparison? They were all good on the November ballot . Walker is a outsider and outsiders will always struggle to win elections. 90% of politicians don’t want a republican outsider to win .
Is outsider code for functionally illiterate?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:16 pm to saintforlife1
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Proof of why candidate quality matters
Democrats turned out for him in droves.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:19 pm to saintforlife1
quote:No he isn't. But you are, and it's the reason you're getting eaten alive here.
You are missing the point.
The communist slumlord preacher who ran over his ex-wife with a car was no great candidate. Why did he win? He won because the Georgia race was minimally about the candidates. It was about election systems and massive differences in funding.
Walker's supposed inferiority as a candidate is simply a shiny object to distract from the obvious. Fetterman was a FAR worse candidate than Walker, yet he won his race.
Why?
As with the GA race, the MSM and you would audaciously assert Oz lost because he was a "bad candidate." Relative to his opponent, one would have to be an imbecile to believe that.
If the takeaway is Walker lost because he was a poor candidate, or Oz lost because he was a poor candidate, then the GOP will get its clock cleaned again in 2 years.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:22 pm to DaTruth7
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Just proves one thing to me. Kemp was protected by the fraud machine. Simple.
Republicans crushed a lot of other elections in this state, so they are all protected?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:22 pm to jchamil
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Seems pretty obvious that Dems will get out and vote for their candidate no matter who it is while Republicans aren't getting out to vote for a shitty candidate.
This super fresh take is refuted by Abrams losing badly.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:23 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:On an even playing field what is the Kemp margin of victory?
Republicans crushed a lot of other elections in this state, so they are all protected?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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On an even playing field what is the Kemp margin of victory?
How many points is the "uneven" playing field worth?
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:46 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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There have been a lot of mediocre to bad major candidates for both parties but there are few who are as shitty as Herschel.
Let’s just leave out obvious examples like Biden and Fetterman.
How is warnock a better candidate than Walker this year, or Loeffler 2 years ago?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:47 pm to Indefatigable
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she just ran a dumb campaign by spending all of her time trying for sound bites and pandering to people who were always voting for her.
Tell us about the quality of hobbs’ campaign
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:50 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Tell us about the quality of hobbs’ campaign
Why? It isn’t relevant. Democrats were always going to pull her lever.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:54 pm to Indefatigable
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Why? It isn’t relevant.
Because it’s the part you ‘muh candidate quality’ morons always forget to address for some strange reason.
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Democrats were always going to pull her lever.
What did hobbs do to win the votes of moderates/centrists and republicans that didn’t want to vote for lake?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:00 pm to LuckyTiger
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Democrats turned out for him in droves.
You’re right. But it isn’t about quality or ideological purity for them. It’s about team and that’s how they’ve slowly won the culture war. Winning is what matters in the here and now. Our side stays on the sidelines or will switch allegiance in the middle of the game for a grievance from 30 years ago. The dems circle the wagons while we light ours on fire and then complain about the results afterwards.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:02 pm to frogtown
quote:About three-fiddy?
How many points is the "uneven" playing field worth?
Seriously though, at a minimum the Kemp Campaign was saddled with a massive fundraising deficit. He won with roughly 35% less money than Abrams, about a $40,000,000.00 differential. That Abrams money tree is largely untracked, unattributable, and quite possibly foreign-Soros-laundered cash. There are no investigations into sourcing. There are no plans for investigations, and apparently no interest in pursuing it on the part of McConnell or McCarthy or Ronna McDaniel. Likely because the same sources are paying them off.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:06 pm to BlackAdam
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Are you implying that Warnock was a "quality candidate"?
Objectively speaking, Warnock is a great campaigner and comes off as very likable. I don’t know why so many republicans struggle with campaigning. There is an art to it.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:10 pm to saintforlife1
quote:Remind us, who was the “quality candidate” that won the primary?
Proof of why candidate quality matters
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:33 pm to saintforlife1
You can have Jesus run for office or whoever you think is the greatest man to ever live, but with rigged elections, media and polling organizations on the take and/or controlled, owned and operated by the Deep State Globalist, your never gonna win, unless of course, I do believe Jesus would beat those obstacles.
So anyone believing any #’s, polls, media portrayal of the demographics and support BS, is delusional at best, ignorant to the facts behind the scenes and/or indoctrinated to sheephood!all people wanna do is talk about “oh, Walker is a terrible candidate, blah blah blah”
Wtf about WARNOCK?
Did I miss something about him that makes him some stellar guy with morals and integrity?
The so-called Reverend uses the Pulpit for his financial gain and career is no angel, but when he’s got the machine pushing him forward, everyone thinks it’s because “oh, Walker is a dead head etc etc” bullcrap
So anyone believing any #’s, polls, media portrayal of the demographics and support BS, is delusional at best, ignorant to the facts behind the scenes and/or indoctrinated to sheephood!all people wanna do is talk about “oh, Walker is a terrible candidate, blah blah blah”
Wtf about WARNOCK?
Did I miss something about him that makes him some stellar guy with morals and integrity?
The so-called Reverend uses the Pulpit for his financial gain and career is no angel, but when he’s got the machine pushing him forward, everyone thinks it’s because “oh, Walker is a dead head etc etc” bullcrap
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:37 pm to saintforlife1
Other maps -
GA senate map - 2016 (Isakson win)
2022 -

GA senate map - 2016 (Isakson win)
2022 -
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:38 pm to Stonehog
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This super fresh take is refuted by Abrams losing badly.
Georgia is a red state, if both sides really turn out the Republican should win.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:58 pm to saintforlife1
Kemp went soft on election tampering and got both barrels from Trump. It's obvious that those who tolerate candidates like Kemp that cower/deny in the face of the MSM cudgel, and/or those who blatantly support/enable Ballot Harvesting will not vote for any true Conservative that opposes such. If by "quality" such is the likes of Kemp, then yeah, that will be the only kind of candidate that has a shot at winning in districts where Ballot Harvesting and rigged elections are acceptable.
It will be the calamitous policy of 'quality' candidates that determines the fate of this once FREE Nation. Albeit, like the AI 'Debate Machine' surmised, one person's freedom is another's relative slavery. Omnibus Bill coming down the Hill, with only God knows what thereafter. Reagan's "shinning city on a hill" is over. We'll see what replaces it pretty quick. Already are, for that matter..."mostly peaceful protest" while the city is looted and burned. Sexual perversion good...bigoted Christianity not so much.
Strap in.
It will be the calamitous policy of 'quality' candidates that determines the fate of this once FREE Nation. Albeit, like the AI 'Debate Machine' surmised, one person's freedom is another's relative slavery. Omnibus Bill coming down the Hill, with only God knows what thereafter. Reagan's "shinning city on a hill" is over. We'll see what replaces it pretty quick. Already are, for that matter..."mostly peaceful protest" while the city is looted and burned. Sexual perversion good...bigoted Christianity not so much.
Strap in.
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