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re: Georgia moving to paper ballots?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:20 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:20 pm to FlexDawg
I didn’t read that but this has been pushed for going a while now. I really hope we do. Imo it should be required in every state. It’s the only way to ensure proper audits can be conducted. Yes it will take a bit longer like a few days. Cry me a fricking river.
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:23 pm to moneyg
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You need people from but he parties on site collecting ballots and validating identity.
You need chain of custody of those ballots with counts as they are transported.
And you need both parties available to count ballots.
so simple even the French and Indians can do it.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:29 pm to theunknownknight
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Will not matter if certain precincts ignore the rules
The reason younkin won the governor race in Virginia is because there were over 500 election lawyers on site all over the state. They tried to stop counting around midnight and when word got out the lawyers pounced on it and ruined the plan.
We cam win this, but it takes numbers
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:33 pm to ChineseBandit58
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BUT - when some precinct tries to change the results by several thousand votes, that is really hard to conceal - without needing a lot of TIME.
The cheating we have heard of - true or not - has always been about paper ballots. No one has proven that people are changing thousands of votes at a time.
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hence - Election Day voting only - photo ID required - registration rolls validated - observers in all counting locations
Early voting in the same manner as election day voting is perfectly fine. Mail in ballots need to be completely shut down except for the most extreme sitautions, such as someone physically unable to travel to a voting location.
Photo ID and validated rolls are important and need to be enforced no matter what the ballot method is.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:35 pm to moneyg
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But suggesting a system that allows transactions en masse to occur that are not auditable is more secure is laughable.
An e-voting system can have proper controls and audit trails.
Most fraud doesn't occur because the system wasn't designed to prevent it.
Most fraud occurs because the controls are either overruled or not followed.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
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An e-voting system can have proper controls and audit trails.
Of course. But, that's not what you said. Why are you changing your stance?
You said:
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A paper ballot system is less secure than Dominion.
In a perfect world, we'd have a paper system (manual counts) that is backed up by an electronic counting system.
The two systems would validate and audit each other.
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Most fraud doesn't occur because the system wasn't designed to prevent it.
Most fraud occurs because the controls are either overruled or not followed.
This is just wrong. Secure systems cannot overrule controls. They cannot do anything that isn't auditable.
If the allegations of what can be done to the Dominion system are true, they fail to meet any reasonable standard of a secure system. That's almost certainly intentional. It's like having your email server in your bathroom connected to the internet with very poor security. You want the breach.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:21 pm to LSUFanHouston
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No one has proven that people are changing thousands of votes at a time.
that is because no-one has ever investigated it -
why not put this to rest - DEMAND A FORENSIC AUDIT!!!
WHY do all democrats shriek like a vampire in the sunshine when the 'audit' word is spoken?
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Early voting in the same manner as election day voting is perfectly fine. Mail in ballots need to be completely shut down except for the most extreme sitautions, such as someone physically unable to travel to a voting location.
this is all that we are asking for - with perhaps a tad more attention paid to the security because of the excesses of the past two elections.
FOR EXAMPLE - in Wisconsin before the mass mail-in balloting of 2020, they had very stringent requirements to be able to qualify for it. And those ballots were scrutinized very closely. In a normal year, there was just a dribble of them compared to the overall vote and the rejected rate was around 3% (my memory is that it was MUCH higher rejection than that, but I am low-balling the number to a minimum)
However, ion 2020, there were hundreds of thousands of these "early ballot" and less than .1 % of them were rejected - far less - again using the most benign number possible.
you cannot tell me that there was ANY real validation of those ballots conducted - 100s fo thousands of them = striaght to the counters.
Please check those numbers - if I am off by an order of magitude it is still a problem - and I'd like to know the real numbers - my memory is shot.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:31 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The solution is not paper ballots.
The solution is a electronic voting system that is secure
Agreed but the only solution these retards want is whatever is the most inconvenient retrograde shite possible so fewer people vote
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:43 pm to Powerman
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Agreed but the only solution these retards want is whatever is the most inconvenient retrograde shite possible so fewer people vote
OR
Agreed but the only solution these DEMOCRATs want is whatever is the most convenient progressive shite possible so more illegal ballots can get into the system.
conclusion:
Damn you are simple minded idiot.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:45 pm to FlexDawg
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Georgia moving to paper ballots?
Paper ballots are tools of white supremacy
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:59 pm to FlexDawg
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As reported earlier, during his testimony, Halderman was able to HACK A DOMINION VOTING MACHINE and change the tabulations in front of U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg and the entire courtroom!
Halderman USED ONLY A PEN TO CHANGE VOTE TOTALS!
One thing to remember about Halderman's presentations is that everything he did required physical access to the machines and/or the USB card readers attached to the machines.
Meaning the #1 priority in securing elections is first determining how to not allow people willing and able to compromise elections to be in a position to do so
Physical access is a huge part of any IT security plan. Usually if someone is able to access the machine, then the amount of shite they can pull is orders of magnitude greater than if they are attemping to remotely connect
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:10 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The cheating we have heard of - true or not - has always been about paper ballots. No one has proven that people are changing thousands of votes at a time.
There wasn't one court who would allow the examination and scrutiny of hundreds of thousands of mail in and drop box ballots for chain of custody verification....not one court.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:47 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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disinformation
A progressive using this word is a sure sign whatever he’s referring to is factual information that he can’t process emotionally.
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Are you guys aware of how many boxes of paper ballots were tossed over river bridges and burnt in cow pastures back in the day in Georgia.
Is it more or less than the number of suitcases Ruby Freeman and her daughter magically found after everyone else left the count room?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:57 pm to FlexDawg
No shot the filth will never win an election if we have secure voting.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:57 pm to FlexDawg
The ESS solution triangulates the pencil mark and converts it to a barcode. Look at their paper. They have bar code marks on outer edges of paper. Don’t be fooled. Converting your mark to a barcode allows tomfoolery.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:05 pm to FlexDawg
We voted on paper ballots in the last municipal election. It was quicker than the previous process and you aren’t limited by terminals being available.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:10 pm to FooManChoo
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It's the piece of paper that the voting machine spits out after you're done
I think it's the voting machine part that is the problem.
I in some pessimistic way, thought the flaw would develop after the paper drop after you vote. At the voting precinct you received a paper print out. You also had to put the print out in a 'machine', that supposedly reads it and transmits it? Do I understand this wrongly?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:17 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Your thoughts on this Ruby Freeman police body cam confession LINK
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:35 pm to jbdawgs03
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Your thoughts on this Ruby Freeman police body cam confession LINK
Can you simply quote Ruby Freeman’s most relevant confession?
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