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re: Gallup, June 2021 polling: majority of republicans now support gay marriage.

Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:25 pm to
Not sure why anyone would give a shite if I support their marriage or not.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Also if a state you reside in does not recognize gay marriage then that’s the way it is


What would be the constitutionally accepted basis for a state to deny consenting adults the ability to enter a contract?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:25 pm to
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There isn't a serious discussion about it now


We’re about 6 trillion in already
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Be prepared for people to claim that the poll is false




Right, it's crazy to think that polling could be wrong.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70538 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:26 pm to
I don’t like calling it marriage, and I do not want churches to be required to perform ceremonies against their teachings, but I see no reason why two consenting adults should be barred from forming community property and having access to the same rights, obligations, privileges, and insurance benefits as heterosexual married couples. It is asinine and arbitrary from an equal rights perspective to oppose homosexual marriage equality.

In a perfect world, marriage would have no tax or insurance consequences, be none of the government’s business, and would be a purely religious/cultural distinction rather than an administrative classification, but until then, legalization, in general, is the correct policy.
Posted by EllisD
Member since Feb 2009
888 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:26 pm to
our entire society revolves around sodomy and usury. let's see how this turns out
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:28 pm to
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oppose all government sanctioned marriages. Marriage is a religious ceremony and the government has no place to regulate it with the exception of protecting minors



Civil marriage and religious marriages have no inherent bearing whatsoever on each other except that they are both called marriages.

It’s amazing to me that much of the opposition to gay marriage comes from the mere use of the word As if using the word marriage somehow impacts traditional religious marriages in any way.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:28 pm to
Moving the goalposts. Bigger fish to fry now so to speak
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19542 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:29 pm to
You can be conservative and not care about it. I also think prostitution should be legal. If I take a girl on a date, pay for her to have a good time, and take her to a hotel to have sex, that is perfectly legal. If I hire a prostitute and pay her to go to a hotel to have sex, it is illegal. Government should not have a say in something that is a decision between two consenting adults.

Now, I understand the slippery slope and holy shite were the early 2000 Republicans right in everything they foresaw. Gender fluidity, pronouns, and tranies are just the start.
Posted by dclt145
Member since Jan 2021
746 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:29 pm to
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Just out of curiosity....how many posters on here still oppose same sex marriages being recognized?



Me
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71163 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:30 pm to
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Just out of curiosity....how many posters on here still oppose same sex marriages being recognized?



I oppose the government recognizing marriage period. Marriage should be a purely religious institution and belongs between a man and a woman.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36756 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Be prepared for people to claim that the poll is false

It wouldn't necessarily surprise if it were relatively accurate, as accurate as polls can be that is. But then again, if you're one of the many whose first instinct is to be highly skeptical of any and all polls (like I tend to be) is there any particular reason to arbitrarily shed that skepticism-by-default in the specific case of this one poll??

After all, most every political campaign conducts their own internal polling despite the fact that there are "public" polls on the same exact subject matter. I can only assume that's because they too don't have a whole lot of faith in these polls.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98260 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:33 pm to
This will make Sentricuck lose his mind
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:37 pm to
There is no such thing as same sex marriage. Marriage has its origin and definition in the Bible, which is clear about what marriage is.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8692 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:40 pm to
I neither support or go against, I simply just don't give a frick what adults do to ruin their lives
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:41 pm to
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There is no such thing as same sex marriage. Marriage has its origin and definition in the Bible, which is clear about what marriage is.


The Bible is not relevant to the legality of same sex marriages.

And LOL at thinking that marriage is a purely biblical concept
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13200 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:43 pm to
I won't support anyone's marriage but my own.

Get off my lawn!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13574 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Ok. Then on what basis should the government be able to restrict the ability of two consenting adults from entering into a contract?


I would raise two points:

1. You are correct in that marriage in this country is
considered a contract. I think this needs to stop.
Obviously if two people want to have a lawyer draw
up a contract outlining their social situation they
should be able to do so, but I agree with the
person above who thinks marriage itself should be
considered a social or religiously sanctioned
arrangement, not a legal one. Make laws concerning
children and have them apply to everyone, married
or not.

2. Upon what basis should the number of people who
wish to enter into a contract be limited to two?

Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12710 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:49 pm to
I can’t believe it’s still only 55%
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33739 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:50 pm to
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majority of republicans now support gay marriage.


Support or indifferent? Because those words have different meanings.
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