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Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:48 pm to baconwaffle
eh... over 20% of UK citizens are under the age of 18 and the death rates encompass all covid deaths. I'll add that Americans are fat and unhealthy comparatively speaking, so this data really doesnt help the vaccine narrative either way.
We cant honestly look back on the vax push and declare victory. Especially considering some of the more recent findings that are pretty troubling.
Omicron ended this pandemic.
We cant honestly look back on the vax push and declare victory. Especially considering some of the more recent findings that are pretty troubling.
Omicron ended this pandemic.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:51 pm to baconwaffle
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Lurking variable: 92% of all adults have been vaccinated in England.
Perhaps the better statistic is that in a country with 92% vaccinated, their death rate is 8 per one-million. The United States has 64% vaccinated, and our death rate is 34 per one-million.
Would not an effective vaccine show better results.
90% vaccinated with %90 of deaths among vaccinated
So your arguing it's basically ineffective?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:01 pm to mouton
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mouton
"Vaccines prevent covid, except when you get it, and then it's not so bad, just get the shot to save Grandma."
Data says "It isn't working as planned."
mouton responds "
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What are you going to do when covid is over and done with and you have nothing to scream and cuss about?!?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:02 pm to duggant
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Official Data Shows
That makes it sound very.
"Official"
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:05 pm to baconwaffle
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Lurking variable: 92% of all adults have been vaccinated in England.
You need to vet this argument with someone with more brainpower. You’ve started with the right data point to construct a bad argument. But then you really didn’t know what to do with it next.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:05 pm to RiverCityTider
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Would not an effective vaccine show better results. 90% vaccinated with %90 of deaths among vaccinated So your arguing it's basically ineffective?
So, the vaccine has *some* effectiveness, but some of the same people would still die with or without it. A lot of the same people will still catch Covid with or without it, and a lot, maybe most, of the same people will be able to spread Covid with or without it.
“Somewhat effective” does NOT justify threatening people’s livelihoods, limiting their activities and travel, and forcing them to assume risks to their health and even their life. The correct path would have been to make the vaccine available to the high risk first, voluntarily, and then to the general public on a voluntary basis. The extreme measures are what make me think that our leaders are either stupid and emotional mental children or there is something else going on that we don’t know about.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:06 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I'll add that Americans are fat and unhealthy comparatively speaking, so this data really doesnt help the vaccine narrative either way.
More importantly, no country counted Covid deaths like the US did.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:26 pm to duggant
Your title:
The study from the article you linked:
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Fully Vaccinated Account for 9 of 10 Covid Deaths, Official Data Shows
The study from the article you linked:
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High levels of protection (over 90%) are also seen against mortality with all 3 vaccines and
against both the Alpha and Delta variants with relatively limited waning
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At 25+ weeks following the second dose, vaccine effectiveness was
around 60% while at 2 or more weeks following a booster vaccine effectiveness was 95%
against mortality.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:30 pm to madddoggydawg
Funny how I’m supposed to be outraged at about Putin when my own government has been poisoning my fellow citizens.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:33 pm to mouton
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What are you going to do when covid is over and done with and you have nothing to scream and cuss about?!?!
With the dumbasses in office right now, there will never be a shortage of things to scream and cuss about.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:36 pm to madddoggydawg
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Lurking variable: 92% of all adults have been vaccinated in England.
Perhaps the better statistic is that in a country with 92% vaccinated, their death rate is 8 per one-million. The United States has 64% vaccinated, and our death rate is 34 per one-million.
Try a *little* harder.
I take it, most of the people on this board can't possible comprehend what you are trying to say. The link on the OP has been proven to be fake news. If the majority of a country or sample size is vaccinated, the percentages would be higher for that group. The only number that means anything is the likelihood one would die from Covid within a certain number.
People that received the vaccine died at a rate of 1.4 people out of 100,000, vs unvaccinated that died at a rate of around 12.9 people per 100,000. Basically, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to die than vaccinated.
But most of the people on this board don't like facts.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:36 pm to baconwaffle
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Perhaps the better statistic is that in a country with 92% vaccinated, their death rate is 8 per one-million. The United States has 64% vaccinated, and our death rate is 34 per one-million.
Try a *little* harder.
Is it, now....
Or, could it be that we are paying hospitals more for each Covid death in the good old USA, and the UK has a socialized medical system that doesn't pay.
Had a friend die recently of alcoholism.. Got Covid in HOSPICE. Death certificate says Covid, NOT liver failure....there are tens, and tens, of thousands just like her.
You sure don't think much past what the MSM tells you think, do you.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:41 pm to AirbusDawg
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I take it, most of the people on this board can't possible comprehend what you are trying to say. The link on the OP has been proven to be fake news. If the majority of a country or sample size is vaccinated, the percentages would be higher for that group. The only number that means anything is the likelihood one would die from Covid within a certain number.
People that received the vaccine died at a rate of 1.4 people out of 100,000, vs unvaccinated that died at a rate of around 12.9 people per 100,000. Basically, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to die than vaccinated.
The irony of people that believe what you do calling out people that believe what they do. Reality is there's not a single statistics on Covid that is credible, and that's the only fact that should matter. Your statistics are as shitty/contrived as theirs.
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But most of the people on this board don't like facts.
Just like you.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:41 pm to AirbusDawg
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But most of the people on this board don't like facts.
Or, maybe you don't know that they have been calling those not double or triple vaxxed, unvaxxed.... See how easily manipulated the facts.. and you, are?
The idiots in charge change definitions like I change my underwear. They do what suits their narrative.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:43 pm to mouton
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What are you going to do when covid is over and done with and you have nothing to scream and cuss about?!?!
There's going to be plenty. Covid may go away but that doesn't mean Democrats will
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:50 pm to duggant
quote:I'd assume mostly old people are dying. What % of those mostly old people in that area are vaxxed?
A new report from the British government has revealed that fully vaccinated people account for 9 out of 10 deaths from COVID-19 in England.
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