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re: France is at war with Russia

Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:19 pm to
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So was France the superior nation than England since they won more battles?

From a purely military history standpoint, France is the most accomplished historical power in the western world, yes. They were, and remain, the preeminent land power in Europe (excluding Russia/USSR to the extent that Russia is considered Europe) for most of the last 1000 years.

No, neither the loss of their colonial possessions in the French and Indian War nor Fall Rot in 1940 are indicative of France’s military capability.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:20 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:19 pm to
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You don't consider the United States of America to be a first world nation?

I was referring to France.

We are financing a proxy war, not putting troops on the ground as France is outlining here.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:22 pm to
Frankish Kingdom? Umm so now we are counting battles from 1000 years ago?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64385 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:24 pm to
What does this remind me of? Some old playbook. I can't quite remember dangit. Well back to my latest book yall. A real page turner about the history of Vietnam. And how we got involved. Really good read.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:26 pm to
France has shown for the last 150 years that it cannot help itself
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:29 pm to
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So, if a NATO member launches an attack on another country, we’re not obligated to come to their aid, right?


No.

No.

No.

How are you getting upvotes? Does anybody understand NATO?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Was that before or after the 3-point line?
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:32 pm to
Who in the French government do I contact about the bid process for providing White flags.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:35 pm to
Purely nonsense, most of those “victories” were ancient battles that lack any real evidence or credibility. Militarily France has been in decline since the height of Napoleon 200 years ago. Prior to WW1, the last major European conflict was the Franco Prussian war which they lost. Their tactics in WW1 were abysmal and were nearly overrun in the early stages of the war had it not been for the BEF. Once it turned into a war of attrition that was really only France’s strategy and chance for victory. They were humiliated in WW2 and resistance faded quickly. Their attempts to hold Indo China following WW2 were poor at best, Dien Bien Phu wasn’t exactly a stellar performance of military superiority
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:39 pm to
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The way the French military has pushed back on involvement here, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fifth Republic falls in order to remove Macron.

Yip. The French have been fairly cyclical in removing and replacing regimes throughout history.

The modern USA could learn a thing or two from French history. But we never will as long as people are content with their Bud Light, ESPN and McDonald's.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:42 pm to
Have the French surrender yet?
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:42 pm to
Those pansies are going to drag the world into war for the third time.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
469 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:44 pm to
Yep.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:50 pm to
As Macron said early on, Russia isn’t the only country with nuclear weapons.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:51 pm to
They are trying to escalate this conflict to a point that Trump won't be able to resolve it in 24 hours. They want this war, they need this war, they can't have new leaders getting voted in this Fall who will pacify the situation.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:55 pm to
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has france ever, in its entire history of existance, ever gotten into a conflict with another country, that didnt end up with france surrendering to them ?


France has actually won more wars than any other nation. We give them shite due to WW2 but historically they are a powerhouse
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:02 pm to
Not our problem when an un-attacked NATO member attacks someone else. If they start it, they can finish it.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:05 pm to
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France has actually won more wars than any other nation. We give them shite due to WW2 but historically they are a powerhouse


WWI broke them.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6522 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:05 pm to
France seems to have forgotten how their last war with Russia went…

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