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re: France is at war with Russia

Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:30 pm to
And yet, nothing in the quote says that France is at war with Russia.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

There is not a risk of war, there is war. A Russian victory in the Ukraine
war is an existential threat to Europe and France. People who are against French troops being sent to Ukraine are against
our sovereignity and are in favor of defeat"

Ukraine is a member of NATO? Didn’t know that
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5021 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:33 pm to
Good let somw other nation lose their kids.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:34 pm to
How else are they going to depopulate the planet to save the environment?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:35 pm to
No, they technically did not.

De Gaulle left the integrated military command structure of NATO in the 60’s. They did not leave NATO.

France has since rejoined the NATO command structure. The only thing they do differently is that Frances nuclear missile submarines are not integrated into NATO as the US and UK boomers are.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30043 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

France is at war with Russia


has france ever, in its entire history of existance, ever gotten into a conflict with another country, that didnt end up with france surrendering to them ?
Posted by lacajun069
franklinton
Member since Sep 2008
2089 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:36 pm to
Here We go again. The US is going to have get into another WAR to bail out Frances Sorry arse again!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

has france ever, in its entire history of existance, ever gotten into a conflict with another country, that didnt end up with france surrendering to them ?

Is this a bad joke?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49441 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Is this a bad joke?



He's serious.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41634 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:40 pm to
I’m all for French sovereignty. I’m not in support of France sending troops because that means WE send troops. And that also means all of NATO sends troops.

And that likely means someone (or many) get nuked. WTF is he thinking? They’re all so far up their own asses in the name of “we have to stop history from repeating itself” that they can’t see the nukes that are sure to come as a result of it. Just contain that shite over there, no need to expand it. Jesus Christ….
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:41 pm to
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I’m not in support of France sending troops because that means WE send troops. And that also means all of NATO sends troops.

Why would it mean those things?

Note: I also think it would be a monumental mistake for France to commit itself on the ground in Ukraine. But their unilateral action would absolutely not obligate NATO or any NATO member to do anything at all—including in defense of France if Russia were to attack in response of France entering the war. Article V is purely defensive.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5354 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

has france ever, in its entire history of existance, ever gotten into a conflict with another country, that didnt end up with france surrendering to them ?


France's military has actually won more battles than any other nation on Earth. The stereotype of the "surrendering Frenchman" is a false perception based on limited historical knowledge. In other words, in the 1000+ year history of France, the French have been involved in many wars and have had much success.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57248 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:42 pm to
So do we intervene when Russia splatters Paris with nukes?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64671 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:42 pm to
Is France up on the Nato dues?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:43 pm to
Damn shame when the French have more balls than Republicans
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Is France up on the Nato dues?

Every NATO member is “up” on actual NATO dues.

The 2% requirement refers to domestic spending on each nations own military.

People who think the 2% requirement money goes to some random NATO pot are ignorant.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131416 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:45 pm to
Oh my. This will probably be a difficult few hours for Russia.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49441 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

France's military has actually won more battles than any other nation on Earth. The stereotype of the "surrendering Frenchman" is a false perception based on limited historical knowledge. In other words, in the 1000+ year history of France, the French have been involved in many wars and have had much success.


Napoleon won a lot of battles.

How did that march on Moscow work out for him?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:46 pm to
This isn’t good news. Once France is in it, we will get pulled in it.

You think these dems gaf about sending YOUR kids off to die? They won’t think twice.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:46 pm to
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He's serious.

I guess he’s never heard of World War 1.
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