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re: For older posters: How does this compare to Clinton’s impeachment circus?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:22 pm to 4Ghost
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:22 pm to 4Ghost
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Clinton deal was factual. Monica and the dress. Clinton redefining a blowjob was not sex!
And Clinton perjured himself.
Also, Clinton tried to change the media headlines by authorizing a huge missile strike on Iraq during the impeachment investigation.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:22 pm to NIH
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For older posters: How does this compare to Clinton’s impeachment circus?
Not even in the same ballpark.
There was clear evidence Clinton perjured himself, and not quite as clear, but still solid evidence that he suborned perjury and obstructed justice.
This is a whole bunch of conjecture and opinion. Mostly from disgruntled employee types.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:22 pm to CajunTiger92
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Clinton did commit perjury, that was indisputable. The argument was whether it was important enough for impeachment and removal from office.
And I think the Republicans were fricking idiots for voting on Impeachment.
The voters agreed with me.
The Democrats are apparently too stupid to learn this lesson.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:23 pm to TBoy
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If Trump was held to the same standard Democrats are held to, he’d be facing the electric chair.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:23 pm to TBoy
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about him having an affair
Y'all wagged your fingers at republicans for years telling em to get over such hangups with elected officials and then become apoplectic when they do.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Death penalty for Drumph.
Reeeeeeeee in a squeaky dork manner
Reeeeeeeee in a squeaky dork manner
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:25 pm to NIH
Clinton committed felonies. Was also later disbarred over sordid affair.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:25 pm to TBoy
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If Trump was held to the same standard Democrats are held to, he’d be facing the electric chair.
There is no way you can be this ignorant. Majority of your post are crazy as hell. President Trump has been harassed by the left, the right, and the media since before he took office and possibly more than the last 4 presidents combined. You are seriously out of touch with reality my friend.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:27 pm to NIH
I go back to Nixons, the difference is that the R's went to RN and told him that his actions had gone to far and he had to step down.
With Clinton the D's whored themselves to protect Billy, that was the only way to protect their own power.
I was a liberal when Nixon was Pres., started voting at 18 in 76 for Carter, after the way the D's acted when Billy was Pres. I swore to never vote for the whore party again.
looks like this time they are committing political suicide
With Clinton the D's whored themselves to protect Billy, that was the only way to protect their own power.
I was a liberal when Nixon was Pres., started voting at 18 in 76 for Carter, after the way the D's acted when Billy was Pres. I swore to never vote for the whore party again.
looks like this time they are committing political suicide
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:27 pm to NIH
Doesn't compare.
Clinton's impeachment was all about Slick Willie's taped deposition. Everybody knew what he had done, but most didn't believe the R's would go through with it when the Senate was obviously going to kill it.
Clinton's impeachment was all about Slick Willie's taped deposition. Everybody knew what he had done, but most didn't believe the R's would go through with it when the Senate was obviously going to kill it.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:34 pm to NIH
Here are a few videos. You should easily be able to find enough information to form your own conclusion.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?120235-1/president-clinton-impeachment-trial
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.c-span.org/video/%3Fc4595012/representative-hyde-clinton-impeachment-trial&ved=2ahUKEwjjsKuW0fnlAhXRyaQKHWZrA1M4ChCjtAEwA3oECAAQCA&usg=AOvVaw29o-h8yXVRyr9siXrYVsSJ
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjjsKuW0fnlAhXRyaQKHWZrA1M4ChDFrwEwBHoECAAQCg&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov
https://www.c-span.org/video/?120235-1/president-clinton-impeachment-trial
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.c-span.org/video/%3Fc4595012/representative-hyde-clinton-impeachment-trial&ved=2ahUKEwjjsKuW0fnlAhXRyaQKHWZrA1M4ChCjtAEwA3oECAAQCA&usg=AOvVaw29o-h8yXVRyr9siXrYVsSJ
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjjsKuW0fnlAhXRyaQKHWZrA1M4ChDFrwEwBHoECAAQCg&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:35 pm to NIH
Not even close.
We had an actual semen stained dress, and calls for POTUS penis identification, all with the background of a videoed press conference where Wild Bill was lecturing the nation by emphatically saying "I did not have sex with THAT WOMAN"
Here we've got some guy, who talked to some other dude, who heard that a female staffer was told that Trump made a controversial phone call. And the actual evidence the nation has this time IS THAT VERY PHONE CALL. So it really doesn't matter what any witness thinks they heard
We had an actual semen stained dress, and calls for POTUS penis identification, all with the background of a videoed press conference where Wild Bill was lecturing the nation by emphatically saying "I did not have sex with THAT WOMAN"
Here we've got some guy, who talked to some other dude, who heard that a female staffer was told that Trump made a controversial phone call. And the actual evidence the nation has this time IS THAT VERY PHONE CALL. So it really doesn't matter what any witness thinks they heard
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:36 pm to NIH
Clinton actually broke laws and perjured himself under oath. Trump has done nothing of the sort.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:37 pm to League Champs
Clinton gave us "Depends on what the definition of "is" is"
Wonder what the catchphrase from this shitshow will be?
Wonder what the catchphrase from this shitshow will be?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:42 pm to TBoy
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4Ghost Clinton’s was about him having an affair and lying about it. If Trump was held to the same standard Democrats are held to, he’d be facing the electric chair.
You conveniently left out the part about Clinton committing perjury, he lied UNDER OATH.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:44 pm to NIH
Clinton’s involved an actual crime.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:46 pm to NIH
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Similar?
Not even close.
There was respect and integrity on both sides - Dems tried to say = "it was just about sex" is the worst mischaracterization.
There were actual crimes committed - real abuse of power - obstruction of justice - perjury - sexual harassment - intimidation of witness.
It was distasteful - releasing the Starr Report publicly was a a huge mistake and don't really know why it was done.
this is nothing more than a weak continuation of the Mueller hoax.
Clinton's impeachment was not based on a hoax.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:47 pm to TBoy
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Clinton’s was about him having an affair and lying about it.
If Trump was held to the same standard Democrats are held to, he’d be facing the electric chair.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:49 pm to NIH
Clinton’s was a sideshow compared to this circus.
This one definitely has more clowns.
This one definitely has more clowns.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:51 pm to TBoy
Let’s start with the fact that Clinton had multiple credible allegations of rape and sexual harassment which the media worked overtime to shield him from.
That was also the time period when the LEFT had pushed for sexual harassment rules in the work place, including such new concepts as “hostile work environment”.
In the midst of all that Clinton was actually sued for sexual harassment. Now, I tended to agree that he should not have been allowed to be sued while sitting as president, but the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
So, in his deposition, while being sued for sexual harassment, while leading the party who pushed for sexual harassment rules in the workplace, he lied under oath. A big whopper of a lie, and he got caught, and he lied on national tv to the American people about it.
This wasn’t just “an affair”. It involved a huge power differential (a frequently described attribute of workplace harassment) with a teenage intern in the actual Oval Office.
So, let’s get the facts straight about this supposedly minor sexual dalliance. It was a much bigger deal than just the discovery of an affair.
Having said all of that, I was on the fence as to whether it constituted a high crime or misdemeanor, as were many Republicans. I personally opposed impeachment. The Republicans ultimately agreed by voting against conviction in the Senate.
That was also the time period when the LEFT had pushed for sexual harassment rules in the work place, including such new concepts as “hostile work environment”.
In the midst of all that Clinton was actually sued for sexual harassment. Now, I tended to agree that he should not have been allowed to be sued while sitting as president, but the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
So, in his deposition, while being sued for sexual harassment, while leading the party who pushed for sexual harassment rules in the workplace, he lied under oath. A big whopper of a lie, and he got caught, and he lied on national tv to the American people about it.
This wasn’t just “an affair”. It involved a huge power differential (a frequently described attribute of workplace harassment) with a teenage intern in the actual Oval Office.
So, let’s get the facts straight about this supposedly minor sexual dalliance. It was a much bigger deal than just the discovery of an affair.
Having said all of that, I was on the fence as to whether it constituted a high crime or misdemeanor, as were many Republicans. I personally opposed impeachment. The Republicans ultimately agreed by voting against conviction in the Senate.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:53 pm
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