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re: For all of you bustin' Texas' chops over TEXIT and electricity
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:06 am to cwill
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:06 am to cwill
quote:so you personally inspected most of them? because if you didn't, then all you really know is what someone told you.
I know for a fact
so you're willing to accept what one person told you over what the op is telling you. which is how you've been treating the election
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:06 am to cwill
quote:
shite froze
Dat actuation condensation
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:17 am to cwill
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I know for a fact that a lot of the base power sources, primarily natty gas is frozen at the wellhead and isn’t making it into the system.
It's probably a combination of issues for natural gas:
1. Freezing well heads.
2. Salt dome and sandstone reservoir drawdown capacity.
3. Pollution regs like stated in the OP.
Frozen well heads could be fixed pretty quick. Just erect a heated tent over the well head and put warming blankets over them.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:22 am to cwill
Chyna has access to our power grid in TX.
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/yami-investigates/chinese-wind-farm-in-texas-its-the-greatest-national-security-concern-said-hurd
https://foxsanantonio.com/news/yami-investigates/chinese-wind-farm-in-texas-its-the-greatest-national-security-concern-said-hurd
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:29 am to GumboPot
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Frozen well heads could be fixed pretty quick. Just erect a heated tent over the well head and put warming blankets over them.
I don’t see how this can be done at any scale. There aren’t that many preheat companies out there. Those use cases are pretty limited. Ive worked with them on side tracks before and even once to get creative to rip a stuck arse valve off with preheat and a casing jack. I don’t think there’s enough of them around to make an impact but I could be wrong.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:31 am to Ailsa
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Chyna has access to our power grid in TX.
If you go down a rabbit hole of Chinese owned companies it’s going to get a whole lot scarier than that. Hell we imposed tariffs on China at the request of a Chinese owned company
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:40 am to cwill
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The Bloomberg article states the request was granted.
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:00 pm to mmcgrath
Yep. I don’t get it. Are people saying Texas couldn’t make it on its own because it is having rolling blackouts for 3 days?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:00 pm to cwill
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The Bloomberg article states the request was granted.
It was.
After the damage had been done.
Preparations could’ve been made to prevent this.
A free Texas wouldn’t have had to jump through hoops.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:01 pm to cwill
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The Bloomberg article states the request was granted.
Yes after a delay to make the request, hear the request, rule on the request, etc.
A state should not have to ask the federal government to make enough electricity to keep its citizens with power.
That is the whole point of my posting this. That is the whole point of the Texit movement, we can do better without Washington DC managing our lives.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:02 pm to CaTiger85
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Are people saying Texas couldn’t make it on its own because it is having rolling blackouts for 3 days?
No.
The infrastructure was in place.
Having to wait while state government sought “permission” from the federal government was a behemoth obstacle that shouldn’t have been an issue.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:03 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Ah yes, unbiased source TNM
The problem wasn’t pollution limits. The problem is all your wind farms froze (17% of Texas’ energy pie) and your natgas hubs/pumps (40%) froze from condensation. They could’ve hear traced them - I’ve done more than a few pump stations & cogens myself - but they didn’t. Why? Because it was money they didn’t think they needed to spend.
It’s no ones fault but the private companies that run power stations and gas hubs.
The problem wasn’t pollution limits. The problem is all your wind farms froze (17% of Texas’ energy pie) and your natgas hubs/pumps (40%) froze from condensation. They could’ve hear traced them - I’ve done more than a few pump stations & cogens myself - but they didn’t. Why? Because it was money they didn’t think they needed to spend.
It’s no ones fault but the private companies that run power stations and gas hubs.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:05 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
This is only part of the issue
The other part is that plants in Texas aren’t designed like those in the north to withstand these temperatures and many are frozen over. It’s very expensive to do and when events like this happen only once a generation or less companies aren’t going to invest in that.
The other part is that plants in Texas aren’t designed like those in the north to withstand these temperatures and many are frozen over. It’s very expensive to do and when events like this happen only once a generation or less companies aren’t going to invest in that.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:08 pm to cwill
Yes, their shite froze. South Texas Project tripped yesterday morning. 1300MW of nuclear power. Likely due to heat tracing not able to overcome temperatures this low. That’s just how it is.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:08 pm to roadtrash77
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Ah yes, unbiased source TNM
TNM simply linked to a national publication.
Not sure why you’re chuckling.
The facts remain, regardless of the source.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:09 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:11 pm to EKG
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Having to wait while state government sought “permission” from the federal government
Link? Is biden controlling our power now?
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:25 pm to roadtrash77
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Ah yes, unbiased source TNM
How biased is Bloomberg which I linked as corroboration?
The problem was instead of being able to max out power production leading up to this event we had to have the feds permission which delayed things. We are now cranking things up (and it hasn't gotten warmer) so it is not the POS wind farms (which is 17% of the restricted generation, not full capacity) not the lack of nat gas. We can burn tons more coal right now and get things going. The coal is not frozen.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:27 pm to Ailsa
No one has said a word about Biden.
To be frank, I don’t care if Ronald Reagan is in office.
This is about the federal government acting as an unnecessary speed bump.
If you don’t think this letter is comprised of multiple hoops—from beginning to end—there’s really nothing left to say.
LINK ]U.S. Department of Energy letter to the State of Texas
To be frank, I don’t care if Ronald Reagan is in office.
This is about the federal government acting as an unnecessary speed bump.
If you don’t think this letter is comprised of multiple hoops—from beginning to end—there’s really nothing left to say.
LINK ]U.S. Department of Energy letter to the State of Texas
quote:
with respect to any Specified Resource that is an ERCOT Generation Resource or Settlement Only Generator whose operator notifies ERCOT that the unit is unable, or expected to be unable, to produce at its maximum output due to an emission or effluent limit in any federal environmental permit, ERCOT shall ensure that such Specified Resource is only allowed to exceed any such limit during a period for which ERCOT has declared an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 2 or Level 3. This incremental amount of restricted capacity would be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh. Once ERCOT declares that such an EEA Level 2 or Level 3 event has ended, the unit is required to immediately return to operation within its permitted limits; and
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:29 pm to EKG
quote:
This is about the federal government acting as an unnecessary speed bump.
there are some folks on this board that think it is a good idea for the government to be able to dictate what your thermostat is set on...
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