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Flock Network - Good/Bad/Indifferent

Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:25 am
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:25 am
Searched and didn't see a thread on this topic. Delete if one exists.

Good/Bad/Indifferent

What's your view on the ramp rate of Flock camera installs in the US (urban and rural areas) over the last couple of years?

Do you see their network's need for literally connecting the dots on the surveillance map as a primary driver for AI Data Center investment? If not, what other things are driving that demand?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26407 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:27 am to
It or its equivalent was inevitable. The surveillance state will only grow, never recede.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24058 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:29 am to
It should be opposed by every freedom loving American.

There is absolutely no justification for its existence and anyone on the right who is for it is explicitly anti freedom and individual rights.
Posted by Wee Ice Mon
Member since May 2014
1940 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:32 am to
Beast system component for sure.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158816 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:35 am to
I need to go work for them with their growth trajectory. May as well make some money during the rise of big brother.


There’s good and bad.

An Arkansas state trooper recently took 50 pounds of illegal MJ off the roads. He built probable cause based on the clear odor and the drivers story of his travels didn’t match the evidence from the LPRs.

They are useful for criminal apprehension and crime solving. It has to be a very narrow scope of use though. And therein lies the problem.

ETA: GM. I see you are back to form. Nice.
This post was edited on 6/25/26 at 9:38 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97706 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:36 am to
Amazing technology but I’m in agreement it’s an overstep on freedom.

FWIW I’m pro-traffic camera for a’holes running reds and I’ll fight you if you disagree
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3097 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:37 am to
Only idiots would support this
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
2110 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:38 am to
quote:

It has to be a very narrow scope of use though. And therein lies the problem.


Yep, because once you open it up an inch, they will open it up all the way.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13496 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Good


I say good only because Great wasn't an option. Nothing else seems to be stopping people from committing crimes. I expect the use of cameras and AI will make it much more difficult for people to get away with crimes. I am all in favor of it.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22905 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:42 am to
What's the problem with the gov knowing your every move, every day, every minute?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158816 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Do you see their network's need for literally connecting the dots on the surveillance map as a primary driver for AI Data Center investment? If not, what other things are driving that demand?


Yes. These data centers (real time crime centers) require a large investment. To justify that investment lots of data is needed to pump into the system and ultimately arrests and a lower crime rate will be expected.

Live video is a huge part of the equation.

I’m touring our new real time crime center we built in early July and will have a better understanding of all the components and inputs.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24764 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:44 am to
Extremely opposed as I believe in not sacrificing liberty for some perceived safety.

Also a private company collecting all that data from public roads is bad.

Then you have the whole matter of the corrupt police that are using it to target people and stalk exes so you have the gov abuse part.

Then lastly they are actually a safety hazard as they aren’t installed correctly and present a hazard that isn’t up to code on our road ways. So you have a private company collecting data of unwilling citizens, the gov paying for this bullshite with our tax dollars, police abuse which is already rampant ( three cops deputies in Woodstock just got fired for stalking people), and it’s a safety hazard since flocks aren’t being installed up to code.

Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18972 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:44 am to
People constantly talk about how AI can make their lives better in the future. It is not about that. There is a reason the government (both sides) and corporations are 100% all-in on the AI. This is about control and power. If you hear any other reason, you're being lied to. When the IT nerd that thinks he is in the know and calls you a luddite, just chalk that up to naivete.

It is all about control and power. Government controlling you. Government military controlling the world.

We are headed towards two outcomes, both are bad.

1. AI grows and actually becomes a self-aware life form. In that event it will kill us all or worse.

2. AI stays a computer program, but it grows to the point that it can do most jobs and everyone will be out of work. They will grasp for their momma Uncle Sam to take care of them or rebel and we will have a very long period of hard times.

Start planning now. It will get harder and harder each coming year.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24764 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:46 am to
We all know the crime part is only going to go one way. We have lots of democrats that commit crime and are just released.

ETA: if someone was to break into my house and steal shite while I’m gone, I doubt they would use it to fix the problem.

I hate being in agreement with the dumb leftist, but they need to be taken down one way or the other.
This post was edited on 6/25/26 at 9:48 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22905 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Then you have the whole matter of the corrupt police that are using it to target people and stalk exes so you have the gov abuse part.
Already happened.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11234 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:48 am to
I don’t like them, but I also recognize that most of us voluntarily carry a device with us everywhere we go that collects far more detailed information.

Cops have to jump through more hoops to get that info though.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24764 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:49 am to
Yea I saw it happened in Woodstock, GA and mention of it in another city. I’m sure they are abusing it.

The only acceptable part was Woodstock fired them immediately but likely only because they used it on coworkers. If it was a regular citizen then I could see the rug sweeping.
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
1814 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:50 am to
quote:

What's the problem with the gov knowing your every move, every day, every minute?


I understand people not wanting the government to track everything they are doing, but at the same time I personally prioritize my safety over my privacy. I'm not doing anything wrong so why should I care? I can see how it can be a slippery slope though

I also think this helps law enforcement in completing cases, because a lot of times they can't find the person responsible for the crimes because cameras are no longer functioning in the area where the crime happened. It would be solved if they had been.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24764 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:50 am to
We are paying for that device and consent to that.

I guess you could say you consent to flick since you are on a public road but using our tax dollars to allow a private company to collect that data is too far.

Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9077 posts
Posted on 6/25/26 at 9:56 am to
We have them at the entrances to and inside our gated subdivision. I'm not sure why that was deemed necessary. We live in a very low crime area.

Generally I am not a fan, but I'm also not taking an angle grinder to them in the middle of the night... but I am very uncomfortable with them inside my neighborhood.
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