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Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:17 am to trinidadtiger
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These cameras have been around for decades, suddenly we give it a buzz word "flock" and everyone is up in alarm. Why the rage now?
Because the companies Flock and Axon had installed them in the 10's of thousands. Those surveillance networks all feed into a database that can track movements for the lifetime of the database. In short, the level of surveillance escalated rapidly with a citizen/voter demand for it.
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is it really ngos fighting deportations?
Nope... the pushback has been from both sides of the aisle. In fact, the only people I've seen support it are Police Departments, District Attorneys offices, a small segment of government officials, and about 5% of random internet people.
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Step back and reflect. Who benefits if all "flock" cameras are removed. Would that stop any policeman from pulling you over???? But it certainly would hamper tracking down illegals hmmmmmm.
Everyone benefits. It would certainly take away fake probable cause traffic stops to answer that question. But to take your argument one tiny step further, why not allow law enforcment to enter homes freely, without a warrant, to look for illegals. They'd probably get a lot more of them.
There was rightfully outrage when Law Enforcement went house to house following the Boston Marathon Bombing. Citizens saw that as going too far, and rightfully that tactic is violative of the 4th Amendment protections. Keeping a database of every driver's movement and locations is in that same boat. It's not proper and it violated 4th Amendment protections that have been around for almost 250 years.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:19 am to carguymatt
Funny, similar story.
Libertarians screamin in Seattle about crime in their neighborhood.....are the same ones that succeeded in having the city remove flock cameras....in their neighborhood.
Course they now have the "freedom" to go buy all the stuff stolen out of their home, so there is that.
Libertarians screamin in Seattle about crime in their neighborhood.....are the same ones that succeeded in having the city remove flock cameras....in their neighborhood.
Course they now have the "freedom" to go buy all the stuff stolen out of their home, so there is that.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:20 am to trinidadtiger
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I have eight cameras around my property, are you telling me you dont care about the safety of your family enough to put in a security system???
You think this is the same as Flock?
You are too dumb to participate in the conversation.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:23 am to Willie Stroker
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It also highlights different sects of libertarianism
Yeah, this has to be it. It just has to be one of the smaller sets of political ideology setting this all off.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:25 am to trinidadtiger
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Ole Ben might change his tune if a camera could have given temporary safety from having your child raped and buggered by an illegal, ya think???
I am pretty sure Ole Ben would have been smart enough to realize that there is a much better way to stop illegals from buggering anyone.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:27 am to trinidadtiger
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I have eight cameras around my property,
Bruh, you live in a shitty area and need to move.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:35 am to trinidadtiger
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I have eight cameras around my property, are you telling me you dont care about the safety of your family enough to put in a security system???
Good. Now turn control of those cameras over to me. For your safety of course.
You want to be safe, don’t you?
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:38 am to Centinel
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Now turn control of those cameras over to me. For your safety of course.
Exactly.
Plus you don’t have to tell him how you are using the cameras nor show him any records.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:39 am to CountryVolFan
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There was rightfully outrage when Law Enforcement went house to house following the Boston Marathon Bombing.
Sadly the citizens of Boston were just fine with it.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:41 am to CountryVolFan
What you do in the privacy of your home is a protected Constitutional right but as soon as you step outside onto public property you no longer have the right to privacy. The rest of the people have the right to be able to safely go about our business without having our possessions stolen or our lives and our family member's lives being put in jeopardy because of criminals who are taking advantage of a lack of cameras to keep an eye on them.
As far as I'm concerned I would have no problem with cameras watching every square inch of public property.
As far as I'm concerned I would have no problem with cameras watching every square inch of public property.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:45 am to Dawglovertoo
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but as soon as you step outside onto public property you no longer have the right to privacy.
Carpenter v. United States
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:47 am to Dawglovertoo
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As far as I'm concerned I would have no problem with cameras watching every square inch of public property.
Has to be a troll. Otherwise you are not much of a deep thinker.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:47 am to Dawglovertoo
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What you do in the privacy of your home is a protected Constitutional right but as soon as you step outside onto public property you no longer have the right to privacy
You do realize that inside of your automobile is in fact private property and you can reasonably expect privacy inside private property.
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As far as I'm concerned I would have no problem with cameras watching every square inch of public property
England is taking immigrants
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:49 am to Dawglovertoo
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What you do in the privacy of your home is a protected Constitutional right but as soon as you step outside onto public property you no longer have the right to privacy
People do NOT have the right to follow you around 24 hours a day to monitor your movement. Not even law enforcement has this right. GPS tracking devices have only been allowed with a warrant and are subject to probable cause determinations. The problem is the database and always on tracking. This is the distinction that your side is outright ignoring.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:05 am to GregMaddux
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For many of us they absolutely suddenly popped up
They have been around for about a decade. Was originally targeted towards home owners associations to monitor neighborhoods.
And weve had traffic cameras for a long time. When you get caught speeding in a school zone, that data gets stored and shared.
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Automatic Number-Plate Recognition (ANPR) software converts the photo of your plate into text. It automatically runs that plate through the DMV database, finds the registered owner's home address, and mails the speeding ticket directly to them with the photos attached as proof.
Your privacy has been gone for a while.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:15 am to weagle1999
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I want every Flock camera cut down and I’m not with an NGO. And I reached this opinion independently.
I do not trust law enforcement and I do not trust the government.
Funny
I havent heard this opinion repeated with regards to being forced to display a license plate on your vehicle and trailer.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:17 am to CountryVolFan
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People do NOT have the right to follow you around 24 hours a day to monitor your movement.
On public roads? What law prevents people from watching you in public?
Free speech, free press, and free association disagree with your assertions.
It is exactly the reason why you have a license plate.
If you want private roads with private laws, then go do that.
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:18 am to Honkus
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Chinese propaganda to give them a leg up on the AI arms race
This is such a stupid talking point
If anything, China should be encouraging it in the USA, because building all these out is over-leveraging our tech oligarchy towards an economic crash. Think about how Reagan won the Cold War
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:20 am to theunknownknight
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Think about how Reagan won the Cold War
You think China can out leverage us in an economic war?
Thats all I need to know about your argument.
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