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re: Flat tax
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:12 pm to 31TIGERS
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:12 pm to 31TIGERS
quote:Its alway puzzled me that people that want “reparations” for people that were never slaves—feel that government is entitled to the labor of anyone that dare become successful.
Taxation is theft!
They have no moral high ground to stand on. They have no hesitation in taking another persons labor. None.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:12 pm to Rex Feral
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Ideally, there would be a valued added sales tax, similar to what some European countries have. That way taxes are collected on unreported cash transactions.
In addition, there would remain an income tax with a $300,000 exemption so most people don't have to file. This would prevent the tax system from being regressive.
GFY with a VAT + income tax.
As written, the National Retail Sales Tax completely replaced the income tax, repeals the 16th amendment, abolishes the IRS AND removes the tax liability on everyone at the poverty line via its prebate system that's paid out to all households.
As I said in a previous thread about it:
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This is the express purpose of the National Retail Sales Tax, which replaces the federal income tax structure to the penny. Retailers already act as tax collection entities for state and local sales tax.
Corporations do not pay corporate income taxes, they collect them. The NRST simply replaces the embedded federal income taxes which are passed down along each step of the supply chain, from manufacturer to wholesaler to distributor to retailer, and ultimately paid by the consumer.
In a NRST scenario, there is no need for the 22% embedded corporate income tax that is already baked into the price you pay at the register. Market forces will drive retail prices down to their rightful place, and the price paid at the register will effectively be the same as it was under the old IRS/income tax model. The major difference being that it's purchased with your whole paycheck, because withholding will have gone away due to obsolescence.
Here's later in that same thread where I break it down.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:14 pm to ArkLaTexTiger
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I'm in for a graduated tax that maxes out at 25% with minimal deductions and loop holes.
Anything more than 25% is theft. Governments and individuals will have to adjust.
The concept of an income tax was so onerous to the Founding Fathers that it took an Amendment just to legalize the practice. They knew what was up.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:46 am to Roughneck2020
We have a VAT tax here. And there are exemptions for food staples, beans, rice, sugar, salt, oil, etc.
Pros, it catches all the illegals, drug dealers, the underground economy in the US it has to be trillions. Its easy for the govt because businesses become your tax collector. It would reduce the IRS by 90%. It would stop all the nonsense tax breaks. It would eliminate having accountants figure out your taxes.
Con for govt, it would eliminate all the favoritism for graft. So govt would never approve it.
Pros, it catches all the illegals, drug dealers, the underground economy in the US it has to be trillions. Its easy for the govt because businesses become your tax collector. It would reduce the IRS by 90%. It would stop all the nonsense tax breaks. It would eliminate having accountants figure out your taxes.
Con for govt, it would eliminate all the favoritism for graft. So govt would never approve it.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:08 am to Lake08
I'd prefer no income tax and go to a higher sales tax. Punish people who are stupid with money.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:18 am to trinidadtiger
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Con for govt, it would eliminate all the favoritism for graft.
That's why I love it so much.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:38 am to Lake08
Fair tax is where it is at. Book by Neil Boortz.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:45 am to Taxing Authority
User name checks out.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:06 am to bamacoullion
VAT is what I would vote for, I think. Exclude VAT on grocery staples. You want to tax Bezos on having a 500 mil yacht, easiest way is for Amazon to pay a 20% VAT on it and move on about your day. You want to save money for a rainy day, you aren’t getting taxed on every penny you make, just what you spend.
Flat tax would be my second vote. Everyone pay an equal share no matter income.
Flat tax would be my second vote. Everyone pay an equal share no matter income.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:22 am to jclem11
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Well, a flat tax is regressive and will disproportionately affect the lower income earners.
Are you saying that any tax over $0 is regressive?
If so... no shite. So what.
The entire "selling point" of ObamaCare to conservatives was that poor people would pay $40/month or $100/month as opposed to $0/month.
If contributing to the system is wrong...
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:29 am to Lake08
Flat tax is not bad but the FairTax is the better way.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:52 am to bayoudude
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Exempt food, & baby items since that’s all one really needs.
Workers compensation payments are exempt. It's not considered income.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:55 am to Lake08
Fair Tax is only option. National sales tax on all new goods and services. Even the illegals and other criminals will pay it when they make purchases
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:56 am to Lake08
Are you asking my preferred method of theft?
Posted on 3/3/24 at 2:57 pm to VoxDawg
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VoxDawg
You’re just regurgitating what you read on a flat tax website. Put some thought into it.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 2:57 pm to meansonny
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Are you saying that any tax over $0 is regressive?
No. Are you this dense?
The term regressive tax refers to a tax that is applied uniformly regardless of income. Regressive taxes take a larger percentage of income from low-income earners than from middle- and high-income earners. As such, the tax burden decreases with regressive taxes as income rises. It is contrasted with a progressive tax, which takes a larger percentage from high-income earners. Common forms of regressive include sales tax, excise tax, and payroll tax.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 3:20 pm to jclem11
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The term regressive tax refers to a tax that is applied uniformly regardless of income.
Wrong.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 3:56 pm to jclem11
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Are you saying that any tax over $0 is regressive?
No. Are you this dense?
The term regressive tax refers to a tax that is applied uniformly regardless of income. Regressive taxes take a larger percentage of income from low-income earners than from middle- and high-income earners.
Maybe I am dense.
How does a flat tax take a higher percentage of income from low income workers versus high income workers?
Posted on 3/3/24 at 4:00 pm to Lake08
Replace income tax with consumption tax. End double taxation of corporate dividends (implied by no income tax). Increase penalties for offshore tax evasion.
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/3/24 at 4:10 pm to Lake08
a consumption tax would be better than a flat tax. income taxes, both corporate and private, hurt economic growth. by taxing consumption you would reap more benefits than you would thru an income/flat tax
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