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Fighting abortion Post Roe. Are we on the right track?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:28 am
President Trump has said many times that he feels like this is a States' rights issue, but I don't think that is working.
Too many progs in too many blue states have totally doubled down on baby killing and are having a lot of "success" in their evil scheme. Most statistics show that abortion numbers have gone up since Roe was done away with.
I think it is past time for a complete national ban or at the very least federal criminal prosecution for those who cross state lines for murder and for the murderers who provide the service to out of state women.
Too many progs in too many blue states have totally doubled down on baby killing and are having a lot of "success" in their evil scheme. Most statistics show that abortion numbers have gone up since Roe was done away with.
I think it is past time for a complete national ban or at the very least federal criminal prosecution for those who cross state lines for murder and for the murderers who provide the service to out of state women.
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:33 am to BrodyDad
Charlie is missed.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:37 am to BrodyDad
Pro-lifers need to convince the public that their position is correct. We're never going to achieve the outcomes we'd like as long as a majority of the country opposes us.
Oh, and the so-called abolitionists aren't helping. They just convince more people that pro-lifers hate women.
For now, we need to focus on restrictions that are actually popular. The only nationwide ban we should consider is on abortions after 23 weeks.
Oh, and the so-called abolitionists aren't helping. They just convince more people that pro-lifers hate women.
For now, we need to focus on restrictions that are actually popular. The only nationwide ban we should consider is on abortions after 23 weeks.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:41 am to BrodyDad
It’s 100% a states rights issue. The federal government needs to stay out of it and everything else not involved in borders and security
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:41 am to GOP_Tiger
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Pro-lifers need to convince the public that their position is correct. We're never going to achieve the outcomes we'd like as long as a majority of the country opposes us.
Respectfully, we have been using the carrot instead of the stick approach for 50 years and it has produced a bad outcome. Had Roe not been allowed to exist with its flimsy legal justification for so long, we might be past the point of doing anything.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:42 am to BrodyDad
Another thing. How about we focus on saving our country first. Because if we lose to the Marxists you’ll never get your ban
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:42 am to BrodyDad
You're presenting this issue the same way our media does, all or nothing. In reality, it's a nuanced position by most Americans. Rape, life threatening to Mother, or viability of infant are conditions that most Americans support for abortion options.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:43 am to Sweep Da Leg
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It’s 100% a states rights issue. The federal government needs to stay out of it and everything else not involved in borders and security
Is that who we want to be as conservatives? To say, states can decide if they murder babies?
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:44 am to Stevo
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You're presenting this issue the same way our media does, all or nothing. In reality, it's a nuanced position by most Americans. Rape, life threatening to Mother, or viability of infant are conditions that most Americans support for abortion options.
It IS all or nothing. I see no room for exceptions. The babies didnt ask for that.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:52 am to Sweep Da Leg
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It’s 100% a states rights issue. The federal government needs to stay out of it and everything else not involved in borders and security
I agree. But I wonder why the left keeps protesting that Trump banned abortion when the abortion numbers have gone up. I can't believe that American women have learned what a car is capable of doing.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:55 am to BrodyDad
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Is that who we want to be as conservatives? To say, states can decide if they murder babies?
Regardless how self righteous you ae Republicans need to stay as far away as they can from this issue. It does not help their election chances and creates one more red herring for the Democrats and their praetorian guard media to pounce on over and fricking over. Let it go!
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:56 am to BrodyDad
We need a national ban.
If states started passing legislation allowing for the murder of women (wives and daughters) by violent men (husbands and fathers), there would be a large movement to have the federal government step in and outlaw it as a violation of the 14th amendment.
We need to do the same thing for the children.
If states started passing legislation allowing for the murder of women (wives and daughters) by violent men (husbands and fathers), there would be a large movement to have the federal government step in and outlaw it as a violation of the 14th amendment.
We need to do the same thing for the children.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:00 am to BrodyDad
Nope, our culture is too selfish. They've convinced themselves that the child being ripped apart in its own mother's womb is somehow part of the woman's body.
That aborting a perfectly healthy pregnancy is "healthcare".
That income related issues are solved by a doctor ("This is between me and my doctor") instead of a financial advisor.
Captain Hook said it best.
"Me, me, me, me, my, my, my, my, now, now, now, now..."
No self accountability, all selfishness.
That aborting a perfectly healthy pregnancy is "healthcare".
That income related issues are solved by a doctor ("This is between me and my doctor") instead of a financial advisor.
Captain Hook said it best.
"Me, me, me, me, my, my, my, my, now, now, now, now..."
No self accountability, all selfishness.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:03 am to FooManChoo
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We need a national ban.
I don't want to get into a debate over this with you, but I do think we will find like 80-90% common ground here.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
You can't legislate morality. We have slightly over half the country is "pro-choice". Banning it will not work, at least not for any significant length of time.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:05 am to Azkiger
quote:Whether it “works” or not, we cannot be complicit as a nation in letting it happen.
You can't legislate morality. We have slightly over half the country is "pro-choice". Banning it will not work, at least not for any significant length of time.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:09 am to FooManChoo
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Whether it “works” or not, we cannot be complicit as a nation in letting it happen.
There's not enough support/political capital to spend on it atm. I doubt abortion hasn't been banned yet for lack of trying.
We need more public support.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:14 am to BrodyDad
It is a moral requirement and political disaster all in one.
There is no question it is a very barbaric thing for the government to condone as a Constitutional right, but the large majority of the country doesn't see to agree.
There is no question it is a very barbaric thing for the government to condone as a Constitutional right, but the large majority of the country doesn't see to agree.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:18 am to BrodyDad
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It IS all or nothing. I see no room for exceptions. The babies didnt ask for that.
Neither did Mom though. It's why it's nuanced.
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:23 am to Stevo
the guttmacher institutes (a pro abortion group) estimates there were 1,126,000 clinician-assisted abortions in 2025
So ~1,079,834 babies were murdered in the womb for convenience of the "mother"
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:50 am to BrodyDad
You’re fricking insane man if my daughter gets raped then pregnant abortion is absolutely on the table
If my wife might die from a pregnancy complication abortion is on the table
I’m on board with abolishing “at will” abortions outside of the first 8 weeks or whatever. If you really think that abortion is all or nothing then you’re fricking insane. Psycho insane. Like you’re a danger to your neighbors.
If my wife might die from a pregnancy complication abortion is on the table
I’m on board with abolishing “at will” abortions outside of the first 8 weeks or whatever. If you really think that abortion is all or nothing then you’re fricking insane. Psycho insane. Like you’re a danger to your neighbors.
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