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re: Federal government spends $4.6M on crab and lobster tails in a month

Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:27 am to
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:27 am to
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. I would guess that’s where the majority of that number is coming from.




You guessed wrong.

It comes from baseline budgeting.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:30 am to
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for a couple hundred thousand soldiers. That seems about right.


Oof
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:32 am to
Jesus Christ. This is sickening, politician shouldn’t and wasn’t designed to be a career damn it

Edit:
I initially said government instead of politician, and while I’m still not a huge fan of having such a large federal government employee pool, I meant being an elected politician shouldn’t and was never intended to be a career by the founding fathers
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 11:31 am
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5500 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:34 am to
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INB4: orange man bad is blamed; when they have been doing this for most likely 40 years.


No doubt, this type of BS spending has been going on for decades. With that said he is part of the problem if he doesn't fix it. Lead and fix it.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:37 am to
quote:


quote:
. I would guess that’s where the majority of that number is coming from.



You guessed wrong.

It comes from baseline budgeting.


Baseline budgeting is the how. What I said is the where and why.

DoD will delay purchases like that towards the end of the year to ensure core competencies are budgeted and then will spend whatever is left over on additional training materiel, facility improvements, food, etc.
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
931 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:46 am to
Why don’t you explain why there shouldn’t be career government employees.

Bonus points for making a logical argument.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32759 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:54 am to
Heavily concentrated in the department of defense it looks like
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32759 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:55 am to
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This is sickening, government shouldn’t and wasn’t designed to be a career damn it

I think you mean politician should not be a career
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:55 am to
Why is this some kind of defense of this?

Why should I be happy welfare queens with free college and retirement and medical care also get free lobster? Your happy arse signed up to be sent all over the world. You weren't drafted.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 10:57 am to
But laugh at POTUS for bringing in fast food for WH dinners?

Elitist scum.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16321 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:04 am to
This is due to the “use it or lose it” budget rules. Each government agency always spends more in the last couple of weeks of the budget year than any other week.

The problem is this... you run an organization with fiscal sense.. you don’t have any big expenditures you may have to spend money on.. you have a surplus at the end of the year.. and then you forfeit the excess. Now next year, due to the forfeited funds, your budget may be slashed. Then there may be a need if something catastrophic happens.

Then you have the agency that spends it. Congress, since they are all knowing, will keep their budget the same or try to increase. While the fiscally responsible agencies get cut.

After a few years of that, you can count on not a single agency having excess end of year funds. And they actually come begging for more funds to keep them at least at the same level.

It should be reformed to let the excess funds roll over and the budget being cut in the amount of the excess. That way they still have all the funds. The next year it would be understood the budget would remain the same. It would only be cut if research shows the need... not based on if there was an excess in funding.

But that requires effort. And that isn’t happening in Congress in anything that isn’t political.
Posted by mb_
Member since Dec 2018
748 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:06 am to
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It should be reformed to let the excess funds roll over and the budget being cut in the amount of the excess. That way they still have all the funds. The next year it would be understood the budget would remain the same. It would only be cut if research shows the need... not based on if there was an excess in funding.

But that requires effort. And that isn’t happening in Congress in anything that isn’t political.




Well said, I agree. Not only is this behavior being excepted it is being encouraged
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6452 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:06 am to
I bet someone here has read it and already thought “how can I get the DoD crawfish supply contract”
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:07 am to
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But the wall is a wasteful expenditure

Our Government is no longer for the people


I don't know how you think that's a good comparison but food is going to add up and not ever amount to anyting useful.
Posted by Flynn2Bryd
Member since Sep 2015
606 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:09 am to
The $25,000 dollars that jordan belfort spent on sides seems pretty minuscule now doesnt it?
Posted by Chili Davis
Wichita, KS
Member since Nov 2010
919 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:19 am to
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My happy arse never got lobster and I was in the Air Force.


My happy arse did in 2004 in Kuawit. We had it probably 4 times in 10 months. I was in the Air Force as well. I was at Arifjan which is/was and Army installation The first time we had it, John McCain and and Joe Lieberman had chow with us on the 4th of July. I wondered if it was because of them, but we had it 3 more times that summer/fall.

I didn't get any shellfish on any other deployments though. I did eat a shitload of turkey and rice though.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:21 am to
So of course you guys are idiots once again. I looked at the in total number of employees in the Pentagon and divided the amount by each employee. That's $956 worth of crab and lobster per employee. That's roughly 18 to 20 times of eating crab or Lobster per year. You guys just took a big number and ran with it without having any idea what the hell you're talking about as usual.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21914 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:23 am to
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Federal government spends $4.6M on crab and lobster tails in a month
who for? Some of that I'm sure went to submarine crews. Those guys get the best food, best cooks in the navy
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37604 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:56 am to
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My happy arse never got lobster and I was in the Air Force.
I've only had it in Iraq and once in a while the chow hall would have on Valentines Day for the cheapskates that took their dates to the chow hall.
Posted by TheriotAF
Member since Mar 2013
697 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 12:03 pm to
Where the heck did you deploy?

Our "treat" was chicken cordon bleu, a.k.a freedom biscuits.

We got fish every once in a while but it took one sniff to know not to touch it.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 12:11 pm
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