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FCC Chairman states that state and local laws would be preempted

Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 2:54 pm
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FCC Chairman Ajit Pai's proposed order finds that state and local laws must be preempted if they conflict with the US government's policy of deregulating broadband Internet service, FCC officials said.


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Senior FCC officials also provided some more details on the rollback of federal net neutrality rules. For the most part, all consumer protections in the 2015 net neutrality order are being eliminated. That goes beyond the core net neutrality rules that outlaw blocking, throttling, and paid prioritization.

For example, rules requiring disclosure of hidden fees and data caps will be overturned. The FCC will relinquish its role in evaluating whether ISPs can charge competitors for data cap exemptions and will no longer oversee interconnection disputes that harm Internet service quality.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45786 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:05 pm to
He's going to cause a shite storm.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:06 pm to
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For example, rules requiring disclosure of hidden fees and data caps will be overturned.


shocker, another win for the oligarchy!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:08 pm to
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For example, rules requiring disclosure of hidden fees and data caps will be overturned. The FCC will relinquish its role in evaluating whether ISPs can charge competitors for data cap exemptions and will no longer oversee interconnection disputes that harm Internet service quality.


my god

we are fricked
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:10 pm to
It's all fun and games until breitbart starts getting slower load times
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
125419 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:11 pm to
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It's all fun and games until breitbart starts getting slower load times




The some narratives will change around here
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:14 pm to
With corporatists, expect corporatism.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
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The some narratives will change around here

I have never visited Breitbart directly. In fact I'm reasonably certain the only time I've ever been to Breitbart has been a link from this site. I guess it's possible I might have clicked it a couple of times on Facebook when someone shared it
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:30 pm to
This very site could easily be just as effected
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8330 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:31 pm to
If you’re against net neutrality, fine, I can at least understand the argument. But how the hell can anybody be in favor of this:
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For example, rules requiring disclosure of hidden fees and data caps will be overturned.
Free markets aren’t just a way to say ‘markets with zero intervention’, they are an economic theory built up from a set of assumptions. Nearly symmetric information is one of those assumptions and it is a necessary condition for the theory behind free markets to hold. If one party fundamentally doesn’t know what they are purchasing, markets are not free.

This is shitty policy.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:39 pm to
How did all of this play out before Net Neutrality was established 3 years ago?

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:41 pm to
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shocker, another win for the oligarchy!


Insert any number of memes suggesting you are misusing a 10-cent word.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30904 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:42 pm to
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How did all of this play out before Net Neutrality was established 3 years ago?


It may not seem that long ago, but the ability to throttle and control speed and content before that time was a lot different than it is now. It's why ISPs didn't fight it then - now they have a lot more to gain from it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:44 pm to
So moving to a pay by use format that's just like every other utility is bad?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:46 pm to
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How did all of this play out before Net Neutrality was established 3 years ago?



From the other thread:

Natural monopoly and consolidation exploitation started to rear its ugly head in the 2010's. When ISP's began to recognize and begin to exercise the extortionary power of their natural monopoly arrangement, near market exclusivity in many regions, and gatekeeper status to further buffer profits at the expense of consumers and internet dependent businesses. I.E. Rent-Seeking. Like Verizon throttling Netflix, Comcast extorting companies to not throttle their traffic, and the laundry list of things a poster laid out a few pages ago. This was in addition to other measures that are still in play today because of these forces like data caps and hidden fees. They have spent millions since NN to re-acquire the ability to turn off their default network settings and throttle and create fast lanes for monetary purposes and rent-seeking.

Those millions spent are going to exactly what they are wanting, which is further leniency to exploit their often tax payer subsidized natural monopolies by double and triple dipping consumers, taxpayers, and businesses reliant on the internet.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9420 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:48 pm to
It’s almost like Verizon sent the FCC a Christmas wish list.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:49 pm to
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So moving to a pay by use format that's just like every other utility is bad?



How would you feel if your gas company decided to only supply gas to a particular brand of appliances? Or your electric utility only worked with certain light bulbs?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:53 pm to
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How would you feel if your gas company decided to only supply gas to a particular brand of appliances? Or your electric utility only worked with certain light bulbs


Don’t worry, they’ll let you still use that appliance, they will just limit how much gas you can use in at any time. Only cooking on low heat for you! Wonder if that would influence consumers on using their approved appliances they extorted a deal out of?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:54 pm to
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How would you feel if your gas company decided to only supply gas to a particular brand of appliances? Or your electric utility only worked with certain light bulbs?


They aren't allowed to do so by the La Public Service Commission.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:56 pm to
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They aren't allowed to do so by the La Public Service Commission.


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