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re: FCC Chairman states that state and local laws would be preempted
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:32 pm to Golfer
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:32 pm to Golfer
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I'm trying to understand, likely from someone that reaches the throttle, what they're doing to get to that amount.
The avg HD stream uses 3-5 GB an hour
The avg 4K stream uses 7-10 GB an hour
It isn't hard to blow through a data cap as a cord cutter. Esp if you are a family with kids.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:36 pm
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:32 pm to ShortyRob
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Just because you don't like the evidence doesn't mean it isn't there
I have a feeling that if I asked you whether the sky was blue you'd get it to a convoluted post about color spectrums, light refraction off the ozone, how the eye perceives color, and the time in which the sky is viewed without ever answering the question or providing proofs for those theories.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:33 pm to Golfer
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I have 4 ISP's available to me at my address?
You are lucky
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Is that not the norm?
Not even close
2 is the norm, and when they both suck and use shitty practices well your stuck.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:34 pm to Golfer
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someone that reaches the throttle, what they're doing to get to that amount.
Streaming all content on multiple devices at high definition all day coupled with video games will probably do it
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:34 pm to funnystuff
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As someone who understands markets, would you care to explain why allowing ISPs to charge hidden fees without disclosure is good economic policy?
Give me an example of a hidden fee that concerns you.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The altruist in me says this may be a good thing...it'll force people to actually do things outside of sitting on their couch streaming some random shite they don't need to watch anyways. 
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:38 pm to Golfer
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So if NN is reversed, back to what what happening 2.5 years ago, and I keep my AT&T Broadband internet. They will be able to charge me more to surf TD.com vs checking my email?
Well, yes. But more importantly, they'd be able to throttle the speed at which you view your emails based on which email server you use and they'd be able to both charge you more and charge the email providers more without telling you.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:38 pm to Breesus
quote:to use your example. Are you seriously telling me that if I walked into a room full of people that were certain the sky was literally blue that it would make any sense for me to spell out the science in detail of why they were wrong? I mean when talking to adults?
I have a feeling that if I asked you whether the sky was blue you'd get it to a convoluted post about color spectrums, light refraction off the ozone, how the eye perceives color, and the time in which the sky is viewed without ever answering the question or providing proofs for those theories.
No. The only rational thing to do in such a situation is actually what you just said. To point out the science behind why the sky appears blue at a cursory level. And when the inevitable person says I'm an idiot because it is obviously blue I can be done with it
This is a message board not a training seminar. If you don't arrive with basic knowledge that's on you not me
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:39 pm to Golfer
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I have 4 ISP's available to me at my address? Is that not the norm
No.
Over half, 2/3rds of America has one or fewer providers of definition high speed broadband, 25mbps download.
And it should be noted the granular level of this is a bit misleading. It only counts what is available to some people in a census block. Many people live in homes that won’t get that service on their street. Or live in a home not able to get satellite for instance. So the actual situation is even more sparse.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:40 pm to Breesus
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Streaming all content on multiple devices at high definition all day coupled with video games will probably do it
No wonder we're obese.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:40 pm to ShortyRob
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Give me an example of a hidden fee that concerns you.
ever attended a concert? an orchestra?
there is usually one ticket provider: ticketmaster
there are service fees, convenience fees, processing fees and delivery fees
yes that is concerning
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:41 pm to rocket31
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ever attended a concert? an orchestra?
there is usually one ticket provider: ticketmaster
there are service fees, convenience fees, processing fees and delivery fees
yes that is concerning
When I buy a ticket to a concert I don't really give a rat's frick how the final price was calculated. My interest is if the price is a price I am willing to pay for the concert I want to see.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:41 pm to bonhoeffer45
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No.
Your chart indicates that 75% of households have 3 or greater ISP's available to them?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:42 pm to skrayper
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It may not seem that long ago, but the ability to throttle and control speed and content before that time was a lot different than it is now. It's why ISPs didn't fight it then - now they have a lot more to gain from it.
Good. Maybe mass downloaders won't overload my node and I will get consistently the speed I pay for and choose. This doomsday prophecy is all for naught. If people don't like pricing models (if they do in fact change - some will probably benefit certain consumers), they'll go to a competitor. It's not as if every ISP will attempt to frick consumers, as especially in cable, internet is their cash cow. There is enough choice and competition in the vast majority of cities to deter predatory pricing and overly restrictive usage.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:42 pm to ShortyRob
thats neat.
you asked for concerning hidden fees and i gave an example
you asked for concerning hidden fees and i gave an example
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:43 pm to Golfer
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Your chart indicates that 75% of households have 3 or greater ISP's available to them?
Did you read what I said or skipped that part?
If you want to ask questions, don’t act like an idiot when people give you answers. Shorty Rob already has that market cornered. We don’t need more.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:44 pm to rocket31
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you asked for concerning hidden fees and i gave an example
Ok. But why are they concerning?
Either the price is a price I'm willing to pay for the product I'm wanting to buy or it isn't.
What special information am I missing out on if I don't know the breakdown of how the company arrived at that price?
I mean this is being sold as a very bad thing so walk me through it
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:44 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Did you read what I said or skipped that part?
Yes. 75% of census tracts. My apologies.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:45 pm to ShortyRob
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My interest is if the price is a price I am willing to pay
Then you should be opposed to hidden fees.
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