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re: FBI took everything from Micheal Cohen's office & home and the Set-up of Michael Cohen

Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:56 pm to
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How does this guy fit in the muh Russia goose chase again?



Isn’t it a different investigation?
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:57 pm to
Why in the frick are Stormy Daniels and her lawyer speaking outside the gotdamn courthouse about this? BTW she looked coked out as shite.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:57 pm to
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Which is weird because this 3rd "client" did not want his name disclosed...and that person was Hannity, who seems really surprised about all of this


Well, we don't know that. We know that Cohen did not want to disclose it. Presumably that means Hannity told him not to do so. But now Hannity is saying he had no relationship with Cohen.

But again, if you retain a lawyer, I don't think that fact that you are that lawyer's client is necessarily privileged.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:59 pm to
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Why in the frick are Stormy Daniels and her lawyer speaking outside the gotdamn courthouse about this?


Well, Stormy is suing Trump to say that the nondisclosure agreement negotiated by Cohen is void. So I guess she would want to know what what happening here.

But really, it is all just a publicity stunt for her, I would guess. It could possibly be political as well.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:01 pm to
Stormy is getting unlimited coke for her actions. She gets high, they tell her what to say and she obeys.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:07 pm to
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How does this guy fit in the muh Russia goose chase again?


Cohen is being investigated for money laundering, campaign finance violations, and bank fraud. It has nothing to do with Russia.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:09 pm to
And to some how tie it with Donald Trump
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:14 pm to
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And to some how tie it with Donald Trump


Well, I is all related to the Stormy Daniels payoff.
Posted by nematocyte
Member since Jan 2013
924 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Because he was accused of something and paid hush money to make it go away.

Doesn’t mean he actually DID anything. He just didn’t want his name getting slimed in the wake of the stuff that got O’Reilly canned.


Do you honestly believe completely innocent people are paying out 6 and 7 figure dollar amounts to silence a bunch of lying blackmailers?
Posted by Haughton99
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:16 pm to
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And to some how tie it with Donald Trump


Trump was Cohen's only client for many years. Only in the past year has he added two other clients. Who do you think this would tie in with if not Trump?





This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:17 pm to
BTW she looked coked out as shite. Do you think she and DJT did a few lines before or after she spanked him with a magazine?

This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:17 pm to
I wonder if they took that used Stormy Daniels' prophylactic?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Do you honestly believe completely innocent people are paying out 6 and 7 figure dollar amounts to silence a bunch of lying blackmailers?


Sadly that's what its typically going to cost anyway by the time your attorneys defend you in litigation. Easier and cheaper to just pay out and seal the people up so they don't disrupt your business or professional reputation.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:40 pm to
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They already have them. I assume they want to keep them.

They have them. But that doesn't mean that the agents on this case have seen them.

They set up a “taint team” —a group of lawyers independent from the prosecutor in the case —to determine which documents seized by FBI agents protected by attorney-client privilege.

That's why the judge is making Cohen identify his legal clients, so they can determine which documents get A-C privilege.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139034 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:48 pm to
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They have them. But that doesn't mean that the agents on this case have seen them.
More troubling to you should be the fact it also doesn't mean agents on the case have NOT seen them.

This is as intrusive a legal action as I have ever heard of. When juxtaposed with actions in the HRC email case, at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, the comparison is stunning.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:51 pm to
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More troubling to you should be the fact it also doesn't mean agents on the case have NOT seen them.


This is always an issue when the FBI raids a business. Every business is going to have some attorney-client privileged information. You work with the FBI to protect it.

Here, Cohen's business was as a lawyer and as a business consultant. He mixed the two. So it is going to be difficult to cull out what is what. He also has the crime/fraud exception to contend with.
Posted by nematocyte
Member since Jan 2013
924 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:54 pm to
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Sadly that's what its typically going to cost anyway by the time your attorneys defend you in litigation. Easier and cheaper to just pay out and seal the people up so they don't disrupt your business or professional reputation.


No, it would be easier for them to keep their dicks in their pants. If that's too much to ask, they could just stop publicly pretending they represent the best of Judeo-Christian values while secretly acting like fricking sleazeballs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139034 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:02 pm to
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Here, Cohen's business was as a lawyer and as a business consultant. He mixed the two.
bullshite!

Now that that is established, the onus is ON THE ACCUSER(s) to reasonably PROVE the assertion wrong.
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He also has the crime/fraud exception to contend with.
Based on what?
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:05 pm to
Nematoad. Your avatar is offensive
Posted by nematocyte
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:11 pm to
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Nematoad. Your avatar is offensive


Not my name, assmunch, but if you are a moderator or I am asked by a mod to change it, I will happily comply.
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