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re: Explain the Democrat party switch myth like I'm 5
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:31 am to LB84
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:31 am to LB84
The real cause of the switch was the Democrat Party's drift away from God and the Republicans became the party for Southern Christians. Abortion playing a major factor in that. The real switch didn't occur until 2000 and the South has been Republican ever since. The Democrat Party's outright hatred of God and Christians is what made the South solid Republican not because we're all racist over the Civil Rights Act. Those damn racists took 36 years to switch if that's the case.
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:33 am to Rover Range
Life long Racists just decided to become benevolent altruists and the party of abolition just decided to become flaming Nazi racists. You know, completely logical. Happens all the tine.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:34 am to The Boat
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The real cause of the switch was the Democrat Party's drift away from God and the Republicans became the party for Southern Christians. Abortion playing a major factor in that. The real switch didn't occur until 2000 and the South has been Republican ever since. The Democrat Party's outright hatred of God and Christians is what made the South solid Republican not because we're all racist over the Civil Rights Act. Those damn racists took 36 years to switch if that's the case.
You are directionally accurate, but I would put it like this: as the democrats became more radical, and republican orthodoxy moved very little, moderates and the middle class identified more with traditional morals, norms, and mertiocracy. It isn't the Republicans that changed positions, the Democrats just alienated a traditional base of theirs.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:11 pm to ShortyRob
Why not reach back to Jackson if conservatives are going to reach back to Lincoln?
There was nothing small government about Lincoln. Can any of you pretend the Republican Party in 1860 was for states rights?
My real question is, did all the values of the south change? Or did the parties change?
There was nothing small government about Lincoln. Can any of you pretend the Republican Party in 1860 was for states rights?
My real question is, did all the values of the south change? Or did the parties change?
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:29 pm to Floyd Dawg
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If the parties truly switched in the late 60s after the Civil Right and Voting Rights Acts were passed, why did it take every Southern State another 20 years to elect Republican governors? Wouldn't the governor's mansions switched parties in the next election?
I think a lot of these elections involved Dixiecrats. I know that Zell Miller was far from what the party is now. I voted for Zell, the only democrat I have ever voted for in my life!
It took a long time for the older southerners, a huge voting block, to get over Reconstruction and the association to the Republican Party. I can remember my Grandma talking about "those dam Republicans coming south and tearing up our lives". She got this from her parents who lived thru it. It takes a generation or 2 to work thru the horror that was Reconstruction in the south for many!
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:38 pm to Rover Range
they never switched parties, they just try to hide their racism better.
Democrats are 10000000000000x more racist than any conservative. They are 1st ones moving out, when a POC moves in.
Democrats are 10000000000000x more racist than any conservative. They are 1st ones moving out, when a POC moves in.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:09 pm to Rover Range
It’s a myth pushed by the media and the Democrats. It never really happened.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:15 pm to SeeeeK
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Democrats are 10000000000000x more racist than any conservative. They are 1st ones moving out, when a POC moves in.
I know In the New Orleans area this is far from true.
Metairie, St Bernard and the Northshore are all full of conservatives who left the city in the 60s when everything integrated.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:43 pm to SammyTiger
quote:that's not racism. That's just smart
Metairie, St Bernard and the Northshore are all full of conservatives who left the city in the 60s when everything integrated
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:13 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:be very specific in what years you are referring to.
when Trump was still a Democrat
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:16 pm to Rover Range
Prior to LBJ the democrats kept the black man down with hate and division. LBJ ushered in a new era where they decided it would be easier and more efficient to kill them with kindness. It worked and gave the illusion that the democrat party had moved past Jim Crow but it was all just 3 Card Monte.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:17 pm to Rover Range
Posted on 6/23/20 at 4:17 pm to Rover Range
quote:
what actually happened
The 1968 Nixon campaign and the “Southern strategy” had a lot to do with the shift. It basically hasn’t shifted back since.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:15 pm to Rover Range
They didn’t switch. Their rational is because southern states became red in the eighties, and of course all southerners are racists therefore it had to be a switch. The Dems stayed as racist as they always had been, they just put on a show of supporting blacks, while all the time they were just buying votes and trying to keep them down.
Go look up the stats on what percentage of blacks voted for Wallace for Governor in the late 70’s and 80s. Yep, that Wallace. You going to tell me he switched?
Go look up the stats on what percentage of blacks voted for Wallace for Governor in the late 70’s and 80s. Yep, that Wallace. You going to tell me he switched?
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:18 pm to SammyTiger
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it’s pretty clear in the 1960 the Dems started pushing civil rights and the south started voting republicans/segregationist candidates in national elections
It's not clear at all. Why would southern Democrats suddenly start voting for a party that had championed civil rights for much of its history simply because northern Democrats began to campaign on civil rights. If anything....the racists would either a) vote third party or b) stay at home. In 1968 they did indeed vote third party as Wallace won just about every single state in the Deep South. I think a lot of the so-called "Switch" in the national elections had everything to do with the fact that the Democrats went off the deep end in national politics, starting with their convention in 1968. They then nominated a straight up socialist for president in 1972. It's no wonder Nixon won every state in the Deep South that year.
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:20 pm to Rover Range
Harry Truman (D) integrated the military.
John Kennedy (D) intervened in James Meredith and on June 11, 1963 addressed the nation about the moral imperative for racial justice and civil rights.
Lyndon Johnson (D) was the driving force behind both the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
Robert Kennedy (D) was a leading advocate for civil rights.
Southern Democrat’s (mostly racists assholes) became the new vanguard of the Republican South. (Refer to Nixon’s famous “southern strategy”)
The Republican party of the last 60 years is not the party of Lincoln.
That not all of it but it’s a primer.
John Kennedy (D) intervened in James Meredith and on June 11, 1963 addressed the nation about the moral imperative for racial justice and civil rights.
Lyndon Johnson (D) was the driving force behind both the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
Robert Kennedy (D) was a leading advocate for civil rights.
Southern Democrat’s (mostly racists assholes) became the new vanguard of the Republican South. (Refer to Nixon’s famous “southern strategy”)
The Republican party of the last 60 years is not the party of Lincoln.
That not all of it but it’s a primer.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:23 pm to JohnnyU
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JohnnyU
Funny how you forget that Dwight D. Eisenhower began forcefully integrating schools, starting with Little Rock in the 1950s. He was a Republican. And he picked up Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia in the 1956 presidential election.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:23 pm to frankthetank
Posted on 6/23/20 at 8:16 pm to Rover Range
quote:switch or not.
Why do democrats always say after all of the oppressive shite they did you black people for a hundred years, the parties miraculously switched people? And what actually happened?
today, in this unbelievable state of affairs, we still have what most see as a two party system in Washington DC.
the Republicans are not to be trusted.
the Justice Department can not be trusted.
the Supreme Court can not be trusted.
and then there is the mainstream media.
Canada is looking pretty good these days.
Geaux Trump
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