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re: Eric Reid NY Times Op-Ed Piece Re: Kaepernick and Kneeling
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:40 pm to iluvlsusports
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:40 pm to iluvlsusports
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but you still didn't offer any proof of black people being treated differently.
No I didn't. All I said was "in my opinion." What I might think is unfair treatment in my opinion, may not be unfair treatment in your opinion.
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Thugs are a different story.
I don't remember calling anyone a thug in my post. Are you calling welders thugs?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:14 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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Are you open to the possibility that a cop would treat a black man different than he would treat a white man if all circumstances were equal? Thats the only thing I have a problem with.
Yes I will be open to it if you consider that an LEO will have a heighten sense of alert around a black male. But will you agree that statistically they have every right to be. I will give you a perfect example that I have lived: manning a check point in the sandbox who do you think would get Marines attention more, a vehicle full of contractors, a vehicle full of Arab men or vehicle with Arab women wearing full burquas and why?
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Ive seen it multiple times. Racism is alive and strong in this country and its sickening.
Would you also submit that black people are just as guilty of being racist as well?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:48 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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Police shooting and killing black people at a higher rate than white people
Generally a culture that promotes violence and lawlessness will end up in violent encounters with law enforcement. The race isn't the cause, it's the culture
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:55 pm to TheCaterpillar
Eric Reid is the NFL personification of ignorant . But then , we are all ignorant about something. Of course being ignorant on physics, I have decide not to submit my deepest thoughts on the topic to Scientific America. Eric should follow my lead and either educate himself on the topic at hand or shut the frick up.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:08 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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If you dont think police treat black people unfairly then idk what to tell you.
Watch PD Live on Fri/Sat nights starting in October and you will gain a greater understanding.
You'll understand much more of the subject of fairness.
PS: When bad cops are discovered, they are generally prosecuted. It is not restricted to bad things against blacks either.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:21 pm to LuzianaFootball
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This a post worth a respectful response. I definitely preach this every in some fashion. It's 2 different dynamics. Not all, but many police are way overzealous and out of hand. They are cowards who use a badge to show they're tough. There is also subset of police brutality that in more likely to happen when the person involved is black. Sometimes it warranted and I have no sympathy for a black man that does not love his community or fellow human being.
Just because we address one issue like police brutality and police brutality towards blacks does not mean most of us in the black community accept the shite that many of us grew up around. I made it out but went through a lot of harassment for no reason. There is a difference between a cop showing strong force and committing murder. The murder by cop is what people are pissed about. Nobody gives a fck about an unruly person being tased. In many of these murders over the last 7-10 years, it was just that murder. Others were debatable. But to act like all nobody should protest or say shite about and as if it's all in our minds is the saddest sht going right now. Running from the cops or resisting arrest is not grounds for hunting season by cops. Use a taser.
The guy running with his back turned to the cops in South Carolina is murder. The guy sitting in his car that told the cops he had a legal gun in his car and slowly reached for his wallet was murdered. The most recent decision that let the cop off in St. Louis when his story leaned way more heavily toward a planted gun on the victim was murder. I personally know 2 people who were murdered by cops unarmed. One even standing in his own doorway arguing with nothing in his hands. That was murder.
All most blacks want to be seriously heard before being judged and grouped together bad blacks because we support a cause. It's natural that most white people will always side with a white cop before knowing details and a black person will side with the person killed before knowing all the details, but to act like there is no reason to escalate protest tactics when the peaceful sht was ignored people will go further.
Well, I agree with a lot of your statement here, actually. The kid running away with his back turned is murder. Same goes for the Danzinger Bridge shooting after Katrina of the special needs kid.
And I am all for throwing the book at these cops.
But I also see the truth. And I also have read the facts. And more whites die at the hands of police every year than blacks. I also know that blacks are more inclined to commit violent offenses and more inclined to resist arrest.
My problem with your solution or form of protest is it's not the right venue and it only seeks devisiveness.
If you shared your outrage and protested for all of the races taking a beating from a militarized police and lost the devisive name "Black Lives Matter," and protested all lives who have been lost under a state police and actually focused on the war on drugs, I would think you would have much more support from the middle class community.
But you can't see that and you obviously are not honest enough to say that the black culture needs an overhaul. A complete and total overhaul. The number one indicator of poverty is a broken single parent home.
The war on drugs would do wonders for this; and so would the welfare plantation the blacks continue to vote into office. That isn't going to change and your movement resembles an Alinskey tactic only meant to be devisive to split the country.
Until you, at least, recognize that; then there will be no serious discussion about the possible rise of blacks in this country.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:45 pm to I-H8-BAMA
quote:black people committing violent crime at 7x the rate of any other ethnic group brings them into contact with the police much more often, and police are much more likely to use force when responding to violent crime. It's as simple as that. The narrative that black people are being unfairly targeted by the police doesn't hold up to even the simplest scrutiny.
Police shooting and killing black people at a higher rate than white people. Or just brutality by police. No one can deny that.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:you mean the multiple time violent sex offender who was threatening people outside a convenience store with a gun, and who wrestled with the cops on the ground reaching for the gun in his pocket, despite being tased? Why is it every time these events get blown up to national news the poor victim always turns out to be either a piece of garbage criminal or terminally stupid like that guy in Minnesota?
but one in particular brought me to tears: the killing of Alton Sterling in my hometown Baton Rouge, La.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:39 am to I-H8-BAMA
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Did I say that? When I see black people being shot and killed while being comepletely unarmed or black people being choked out to the point of dying while minding their own business, yeah, I think thats wrong.
Police shootings of unarmed individuals:
2017 - 32
White - 13
Black - 10
Hispanic - 8
Other - 1
2016 - 48
White - 22
Black -17
Hispanic - 8
Other - 1
2015 - 94
Black - 38
White - 32
Hispanic - 19
Other - 5
LINK
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:46 am to DmitriKaramazov
Hands Up Don't Shoot was a lie. It didn't happen
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:34 am to I-H8-BAMA
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Police shooting and killing black people at a higher rate than white people. Or just brutality by police. No one can deny that.
That is patently false. The rate of murders by police are higher on whites than any other race. I'm not talking about just total number, i'm talking rate. If you are a white person who has a run in with a cop, you are more likely to be shot and killed than a black.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:44 am to I-H8-BAMA
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There are a ton of people on this board that CHOOSE to act like none of this stuff is going on. You can be a conservative and still acknowledge that black people are being treated unfairly. Its right in front of your face.
I don't know many people who flatly deny that there are injustices that take place.
However, it all comes across as though I'm supposed to believe that its getting worse, which it most certainly is not.
It can also certainly be debated the severity of the problem.
And finally, holding up Michael fricking Brown as a shining example to make your point does nothing but infuriate rational people and make them not want to bother listening to your gripes.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:59 am to I-H8-BAMA
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Police shooting and killing black people at a higher rate than white people. Or just brutality by police. No one can deny that.
Progs always amaze me.
Blatantly lie, then say no one can deny the blatant lie.
This will be a glorious thread.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:05 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Has anyone mentioned Alton Sterling had his illegal pistol go off while wrestling the cops yet?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:10 pm to I-H8-BAMA
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What are the injustices?
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Police shooting and killing black people at a higher rate than white people. Or just brutality by police. No one can deny that.
LINK
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This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.
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