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Epstein list - can’t release it? Stupid, but ok, can they give a reason WHY?

Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59189 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:57 am
I get everyone’s balls fall off when they arrive in DC and somehow we have to accept Epstein is the first trafficker in history arrested with “no clients”

But why can't these big talkers AT LEAST have the balls to give us GENERIC reasons why?

Examples:

1. Too many other governments involved and we don't want to destabilize
2. We want to leverage it to maintain stability
3. Too many jews on it
4. It makes all of us look bad and we want to bury it

It CLEARLY isn't being used by Trump to bully Republicans as they don't have the motivation to vote for DOGE cuts. So that reason is out.

Just tell us a simple high level why.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43783 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:13 am to
It more than likely list too many agents under cover.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3306 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:00 am to
Leverage...
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
437 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:59 am to
Active investigations. Also, disinformation is a real thing.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18198 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:01 am to
All of em. Plus, they aren't going to give up all that blackmail material!!!! No way.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
2201 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:05 am to
quote:

big talkers


Found your problem
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6602 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:06 am to
I think they'e alluded to some of it. They're a few months on the job. If you have a shite-ton of legit sexual charges involving minors, it would certainly take a bit of time to get all of your arrests and charges lined up while working to protect the minor victims. Especially considering the types of people on that list are powerful and wealthy. The legal battles would be well funded with the best of the best.

I suspect no real work has been done under the prior administration to seek justice, so I assume they are starting from square one.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
16093 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:11 am to
I get your point, but the optics of "we are not going to release the Epstein list because it makes us look bad" are not great. Biden could have gotten away with that...Trump, not so much.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19351 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I get everyone’s balls fall off when they arrive in DC and somehow we have to accept Epstein is the first trafficker in history arrested with “no clients”

But why can't these big talkers AT LEAST have the balls to give us GENERIC reasons why?

Examples:

1. Too many other governments involved and we don't want to destabilize
2. We want to leverage it to maintain stability
3. Too many jews on it
4. It makes all of us look bad and we want to bury it

It CLEARLY isn't being used by Trump to bully Republicans as they don't have the motivation to vote for DOGE cuts. So that reason is out.

Just tell us a simple high level why.


Man i sorta snort laughed at that shite. Upvote deployed.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7369 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I suspect no real work has been done under the prior administration to seek justice, so I assume they are starting from square one.


This is where I’m at.

I don’t know if the folks who are demanding heads on platters for public consumption to already be out there in May of 2025 are necessarily being reasonable or not.

I don’t blame them for the anger …but I’m more willing to give it some time.

If this admin comes and goes and nothing at all ever came out of any of this….then I think we all have some profound questions and realities before us that only we as a people and society are ultimately responsible for addressing. Not any single politician.

We were given that right by the founders of this country.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19351 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:19 am to
What the administration does with this Epstein list bullshite, is they keep it in their back pocket and pull it out when there's some bad news, or something embarrassing, or a policy failure or whatever else they may want to distract us from. It's a squirrel for us to chase and not much more.

So if something happens for instance that embarrasses the administration or makes it look stupid. Bondi, Patel or this board's newest hero, Dan Bongino will hit send on a twat, or do a Fox interview or say some cryptic shite on a podcast about Epstein. Once that happens, all MAGA eyes turn to him and they ignore whatever it is the administration wants ignored. It's political three card monty and folks fall for it everytime.

The administration will bring this so called Epstein list up again soon enough and when they do, pay attention to what else might going on. I promise, it'll be something they want us to ignore.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6150 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:19 am to
Epstein is dead, Maxwell is rotting, the Duke of York will never get the stink off, and the Clintons political legacy is dead because of their proximity to it all.

I'm honestly not expecting things to go much further with outing supposed diddlers.

Imagine if innocents are named just because they appear on a flight registry.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70428 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

it would certainly take a bit of time to get all of your arrests and charges lined up while working to protect the minor victims. Especially considering the types of people on that list are powerful and wealthy.

Bingo.

In the Veruca Salt wet dream where everyone implicated in wrongdoing with Epstein is named at once in a big, public release, then the first problem would be with there not being charges/indictments that accompany the allegations.

The more important consideration would be that with the reality that there are minor and adult victims that are likely being harmed to this day, do folks honestly believe that if Bondi held a presser and named names, that the powerful people that prey on these trafficked souls wouldn't do everything they can to make all of the evidence go away?

Permanently?

Any hostage negotiation that results in the deaths of the hostages is a failed operation.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:21 am to
Releasing the list now does what exactly other than give people a heads up that the DOJ will likely come after them.

The DOJ has to make sure they are.a rock solid case with evidence and witnesses lined up and ready. And even then, many of the cases will get thrown out by activist judges, political connections, and globalist.

They are smart to hold onto the list until they are ready to bring charges with an airtight case. I want people brought to justice and I want the atrocities to be brought into the light, but I also know they have one shot at this and even if they have every duck lined up, the odds are very much against them.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15767 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:22 am to
Probably because now that they have access to it they are using it to blackmail people.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
6150 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:24 am to
It'll never happen VoxDawg you are right.

As frustrating as it is people probably need to start checking their expectations on this topic.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3966 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:24 am to
Very true. Many things the Clintons were involved in will not go anywhere because of the cleanup.

Seth Rich wasn’t robbed.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19351 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Releasing the list now does what exactly other than give people a heads up that the DOJ will likely come after them.

The DOJ has to make sure they are.a rock solid case with evidence and witnesses lined up and ready. And even then, many of the cases will get thrown out by activist judges, political connections, and globalist.

They are smart to hold onto the list until they are ready to bring charges with an airtight case. I want people brought to justice and I want the atrocities to be brought into the light, but I also know they have one shot at this and even if they have every duck lined up, the odds are very much against them.


They're smarter to hold on to the list so they can politically cock tease everyone with it.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86988 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:26 am to
quote:

more than likely list too many agents under cover.


its ok they raped kids, they were doing it for the GOVERNMENT!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70428 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:30 am to
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It'll never happen VoxDawg you are right.

As frustrating as it is people probably need to start checking their expectations on this topic.

This is where I disagree. I firmly believe it'll happen, but it won't happen to everyone's liking. It'll happen when it needs to.

Maybe it's in the lead-up to the midterms. Could be before, may end up being after.

I trust Trump's team's judgement on the when. He has too many hard hitters on the case to let this get swept under the rug.

In addition to the potential danger to the victims that may still be in captivity, there's also the matter of the judiciary being 1000% out of control. Back to the mass indictment unseal and mop-up activity scenario - Everybody in DC that is implicated could stand in front of Jeb Boasberg and we think we're going to see legitimate justice applied?

No chance. Our judiciary has gone totally rogue against the Constitution. Until we deal with that, there is more Clinesmith/Danchenko rug pulls to be had.

Ditto with the embedded assets within the bureacracy that take time to identify and oust.

Temporary satisfaction for rhetorical bloodlust today would be bitter disappointment tomorrow when the prosecutions fail to go anywhere due to the black robe & red tape firewalls.
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