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re: Elon Musk has called for the US government to provide Universal HIGH INCOME because of AI

Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 3:34 pm to
What color huk shirt do you wear to weddings?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25832 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Why does nobody understand that he is talking about a problem on the horizon that is unavoidable and also what will have to be done to fix said problem?


Because we don’t agree with a single assumption built into that statement nor the motive behind it
Posted by Tampa Tiger
TN.
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:02 pm to
Hey Big Sperm.
Explain how Boomers have been fricking you over.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32348 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Hey Big Sperm. Explain how Boomers have been fricking you over.


I’m well off. I don’t care. It’s just a shame what that generation did to the younger kids.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58082 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 4:53 pm to
That’s not what he said. He isn’t calling for UBI, he’s saying that I. The future, he can see UBI being needed because AI is producing everything. Basically, no one is wanting for everything. The worst case scenario was the T2 scenario. He talked about this in depth with Rogan.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 5:11 pm to
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Just raid the retirement of all the rich boomers and give it to the generations they’ve been fricking over for decades? That could work too.


Only a flaming big puzzy would post something like this.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 5:56 pm to
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’m well off. I don’t care. It’s just a shame what that generation did to the younger kids


You are lying and you did not answer the question.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11069 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:41 pm to
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Do you agree with musk? Do you want a handout?

No.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25686 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:44 pm to
NOPE, aint gonna work!

I believe he is actually saying that there will so few people with real jobs, they will need to make more???? I really dont understand.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
40031 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:05 pm to
I’d like fore Elon to engage in a highly publicized debate on this subject. The guy is no idiot; he sees something and should be challenged by educated opposition to expound on it.

An unemployment meltdown might be worse than his ideas.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:27 pm to
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this also opens the door for social credit scores and more government


Will there be a government? At some point the AI will take over that too
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:06 pm to
So this is interesting. Money will be obsolete and inflation will not be factor because there is no currency. Basically he suggesting that any and everything will be available by robots and AI. Because productivity is so exponentially higher it will out pace any negative economic impact. When everything is relatively cheap it will afford individuals a higher standard of living and will equate to high income. Working will be optional for those who want the deluxe package.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22930 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:22 pm to
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Money will be obsolete and inflation will not be factor because there is no currency. Basically he suggesting that any and everything will be available by robots and AI. Because productivity is so exponentially higher it will out pace any negative economic impact. When everything is relatively cheap it will afford individuals a higher standard of living and will equate to high income. Working will be optional for those who want the deluxe package.

Who owns everything?

Who owns the equipment and robots? Who owns the computational capacity and software? Who owns the natural resources needed for any equipment, robots or software to matter?

Musk is obviously brilliant in many ways, but this ain't one of them.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27543 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:30 pm to
The rich and powerful.

The ones who keep making the world a shithole.
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
3458 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:44 pm to
Read Player Piano by Vonnegut. He predicted this and the societal collapse it would cause way back in the 50s.

Bonus: he predicted NIL too in the book
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:55 pm to
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Elon Musk has called for the US government to provide Universal HIGH INCOME because of AI
" When everyone has the same amount of money, nobody has money"
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17316 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:16 am to
So the issue of ownership is not a problem. It will owned by corporations. You are thinking of microeconomic impact but the model is on a macroeconomic scale. It’s like saying in the future there will be free energy. So in that environment not all energy is of equal value. So in Elon’s model the average quality of life will be very satisfactory, however there will be more than enough work for humans to maintain the system. For those who chose to do so they will have an incentive built into their work. He is using a greater good ethical system to justify this approach.
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