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re: Elon Musk comments about layoffs at the federal level, interesting aspect
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:14 am to Big4SALTbro
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:14 am to Big4SALTbro
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’d agree with those moves.
Decentralizing the bureaucracy is a must.
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:16 am to Big4SALTbro
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Unless the economy is really roaring then companies will ignore that.
Its not the resume gap, its the fact that jobs are going to be decreasing regardless of what Trump does and two years of not working changes people.
Hell ending WFH caused mass hysteria amongst many office workers.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:17 am to SDVTiger
Because most libs are stupid and are jealous of success since they aren’t capable of doing it then successful people must have somehow cheated
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
"Constitutionally protected" as defined in your post is little different than current employment laws for companies.
Its just a cutout for federal employees because they could be discriminated due to their political beliefs.
This does not impact terminating them when their job is redundant or not needed.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:29 am to trinidadtiger
The majority of them live and work in either DC or Virginia, both states that went for Harris. I’m sure 75-90% of those workers voted for Harris. They know Trumps position on shrinking the federal government. I’m sure they wouldn’t vote against their own self interest. I say fire any non essential government employee and cut any bloated department, like the department of education, and let the states decide on how to spend the education money.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:32 am to trinidadtiger
The most a person can receive in severance pay in FedGov is 52 weeks of basic pay. And that's lifetime for all FedGov service, so if an employee got a large severance before, s/he won't get a large one again.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:32 am to trinidadtiger
Link to FedWeek article explaining all the rules:
PRIMER: Early Out, Buyout, RIF
PRIMER: Early Out, Buyout, RIF
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 8:34 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:32 am to trinidadtiger
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very smart educated people
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the federal govt
There are some of these but a lot of the ones getting canned are likely unable to do anything else, especially after having been in such an environment for so long.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:36 am to armytiger96
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In this case the NPV calculation on a pension is probably equal to a couple of years salary and would be justified.
This, quit getting hung up on the "2 years severance" as if it would actually be 2 years for the person who was hired three hours ago.
Im MORE excited about the fact it will remove 100s of thousands of people from jobs......whose job it is, is to make more regs for....more jobs.
Elon mentioned how he had several agencies meeting over regs, and you had to have even more people employed so they could work on regs, while the others were taking time.....to meet each other about the regs. Insane.
We lived for 1000s of years with the distance it takes a roman soldier to walk a 1000 paces.....A MILE. Then some regulator says, you know if we changed that think of all the useless jobs we can create....lets call it metric.
Oh boy, what if we invent global warming , nah not all encompassing enough lets call it climate change.
How about discrimination against the masses lets call it affirmative action, nah make it more monetary driven, ah dei.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The main take is he is not a trillionaire. That poster is just dumb.
Compared to me….he may as well be.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:37 am to SeaBass23
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If they just move the headquarters of these agencies outside of DC, you will see natural attrition. I bet a bunch of USDA workers won’t want to move to Topeka, Move Energy to Tulsa. Close the Education department. Sell their buildings in DC. Boom billions saved.
Been saying this for years.
We don’t need all those employees in a HCOL area. Move the ones we keep to middle America (Tulsa, Baton Rouge, Amarillo, New Orleans)….a lot of them will quit. Win win.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:38 am to oklahogjr
You are one weird fricker as your picture clearly indicates.
Love that you start being a bitch more often again here after your girl lost. So predictable.
Love that you start being a bitch more often again here after your girl lost. So predictable.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:39 am to oklahogjr
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Rogan then asked him about doing away with regs and Musk said you need the guardrails but lets use a football analogy. You need refs of course, but now we have 50 of them, you cant complete a pass or run because there are so many of them on the field.
Hasn't hindered musk from becoming a trillionaire....
He's not a trillionaire, so...
To get more to the point, the excessive regulations and politicization of those regulations have hindered him and many other business owners. One quick example is with Space X where the EPA fined him tens of thousands of dollars for spraying off their launch pad with potable water and allowing it to run off. It wasn't washing chemicals off, just dust and debris to clean the bad before a launch test.
It was no different than if it rained and he got fined for it.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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The arguments against this are quite funny. They pretend that this is 1970 and most intraoffice and interoffice communication is in person, and we don't have technology to share documents.
You just sold me on getting rid of the state department. It was invented so someone could speak on behalf of our govt when mail traveled by sailing ship....I think we have evolved.
Having lived abroad for decades, it infuriates me to see these cocktail toting knuckleheads drift around the world in plush settings, working at the embassy, world bank, interdevelopment bank, USAID. Just moving from job to job, agency to agency and back again, and the specs are such that no one from the outside can be hired for the coffee clutch. It would put Mississippi boat captains to shame.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:41 am to trinidadtiger
That dude is like the smartest motherfricker on earth - and we're about to have him partially running the government.
If you'd have told me Trump would have to lose 4 years ago to get to this, I'd have taken the offer.
A new golden age of America.
If you'd have told me Trump would have to lose 4 years ago to get to this, I'd have taken the offer.
A new golden age of America.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:43 am to oklahogjr
Then message me back when he does. Until then he’s going to help clean out that trash in DC and help slice costs with a big swaths of swings
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:47 am to oklahogjr
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He's on track for 2027 based on current growth estimates.
Now I see your problem with math, you are using the ole global warming derivative and variance algorithm to get you there
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:52 am to frequent flyer
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Sell their buildings in DC.
Not as easy as you think, given that commercial real estate is in a total free fall.
I work in a five-story building, outside of the one floor our agency (and another) leases, the entire building is empty save for the security guard on the first floor.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:53 am to Bard
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To get more to the point, the excessive regulations and politicization of those regulations have hindered him and many other business owners. One quick example is with Space X where the EPA fined him tens of thousands of dollars for spraying off their launch pad with potable water and allowing it to run off. It wasn't washing chemicals off, just dust and debris to clean the bad before a launch test.
It was no different than if it rained and he got fined for it.
He said it was 133,000 dollars, which I found quite intriguing. A guy worth 286 billion dollars remembers having to needlessly pay 133,000, so much so that the exact figure stuck in his mind. THIS IS THE GUY I WANT COST CUTTING.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:53 am to Giantkiller
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That dude is like the smartest motherfricker on earth - and we're about to have him partially running the government.
If you'd have told me Trump would have to lose 4 years ago to get to this, I'd have taken the offer.
A new golden age of America.
this is my hope. a golden age of prosperity for the world, especially those that are dealing with more than just the price of retirement, gas, milk and eggs (but those things too).
Christ is King.
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