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re: Don't trust the johnny come lately "the left left me" newcomers
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:00 am to genuineLSUtiger
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:00 am to genuineLSUtiger
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This goes for both sides of the spectrum. Every human being should be open minded enough to question the things that they have been conditioned to believe since birth
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:04 am to burger bearcat
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Don't trust the johnny come lately "the left left me" newcomers
Agreed. However, many of us conservatives were in similar circumstances for different reasons. I for one actually voted for both Bushes thinking that they were just extensions of Ronald Reagan. In my political evolution I've realized how I've been duped my entire life. To think now that I actually supported the ex CIA head is something I'm not proud of.
We need to patiently accept them understanding that they may be trying to con us. Let their truth come out before we judge them. A convert can be a powerful ally or a raging infection. Time will tell.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:07 am to burger bearcat
MAGA is a coalition. There are people from both left and right. A lot of former Obama voters voted for Trump. I can't fully trust anyone who leans left but appreciate the votes for Trump wherever they come from.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:08 am to burger bearcat
Prime example is Ana Kasparian. If she looked like a nose tackle, people wouldn't care. But, because she's moderately attractive, there are guys who have convinced themselves she's MAGA and worthy of a cabinet position. She's still a hardcore socialist. She's just mad the Democratic Party has bungled things so badly.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:13 am to burger bearcat
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but they still naively believe the rest of their views are perfectly fine and maybe they can introduce some of their other ideas to their new audience.
This is basically what happens when they migrate to other areas. And that is how those areas end up screwed.
I feel that way about RFK Jr and Tulsi. They actively wanted to be part of that frickery. The left just wouldn't let them. Although I do believe Tulsi has at least renounced her membership.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 7:16 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:16 am to burger bearcat
This is the source of RINOs.
Waters down and divides the party. Makes it impossible to accomplish anything.
Waters down and divides the party. Makes it impossible to accomplish anything.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 7:18 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:23 am to burger bearcat
I still remember when OP had a meltdown and said he wasn’t voting
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:28 am to burger bearcat
quote:The same happened with neocons in the Tea Party.
come in to right wing circles and immediately want to be the thought leaders,
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:29 am to RFK
Most curious.
What “issues with Trump’s treatment of the military” cause you concern?
What “conspiracy theories” is he spreading?
Now age gives several characteristics that can be good and bad.
Age can increase the chances of death. Now Trump is 78 1/2 years old. The average life span of a 75 year old white-non Hispanic American male in 2016, as per the CDC is 11.2 years. So subtracting 7.5 on average he should live 3.7 years past his term. But, he is in vigorous health for his age. And I contend that assassination is the largest threat to his life, and that is not age dependent.
Age can bring on senility, but he shows absolutely no signs of impairment.
Age can increase one’s knowledge, experience, and wisdom! He has demonstrated all of this.
Therefore his age is a net positive.
What “issues with Trump’s treatment of the military” cause you concern?
What “conspiracy theories” is he spreading?
Now age gives several characteristics that can be good and bad.
Age can increase the chances of death. Now Trump is 78 1/2 years old. The average life span of a 75 year old white-non Hispanic American male in 2016, as per the CDC is 11.2 years. So subtracting 7.5 on average he should live 3.7 years past his term. But, he is in vigorous health for his age. And I contend that assassination is the largest threat to his life, and that is not age dependent.
Age can bring on senility, but he shows absolutely no signs of impairment.
Age can increase one’s knowledge, experience, and wisdom! He has demonstrated all of this.
Therefore his age is a net positive.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:30 am to burger bearcat
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Don't trust the johnny come lately "the left left me" newcomers
Unfortunately many people don't see the bigger picture nor their motivation. They are merely a bridge to get the far left back to being somewhat centrists....all the while fooling us on the right.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:32 am to RFK
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However many “republicans” have fallen victim to extremeism in the past several years
Yall consider Trump to be "extreme" when in fact he is a 1992 Democrat
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:33 am to momentoftruth87
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I still remember when OP had a meltdown and said he wasn’t voting
When did I say that?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:33 am to RFK
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Clinton was the last centrist
If you mean Bill, okay I can see an argument there. If you mean Hillary...
...we have vastly different definitions of "centrist".
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:37 am to Bard
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If you mean Bill, okay I can see an argument there
He would occasionally say centrist things and triangulate during mid-terms to save face. But he was a full out neo-liberal and completely disgraced the office and turned our political system into the shitshow it is today.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:38 am to burger bearcat
Two lefts don’t make a right.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:42 am to RFK
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This was me several years ago, but I knew I was ready to make the switch after Clinton was the last centrist. However many “republicans” have fallen victim to extremeism in the past several years. We can’t let them take the party with them.
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It is up to us.
Makes me laugh. Whoever us is.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:43 am to RFK
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None of these have anything to do with true conservatism
All just terrible examples. You should be embarrassed. Try again.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:48 am to Klark Kent
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give us some examples, policy examples. what recent policies have these republicans tried to implement that are too extreme?
It’s not nearly as extreme as the left’s lunacy, or even close, but some of the religious issues merge too much with government, in my opinion.
Before your heads explode, I’m a Christian. We go to church, we teach the Bible, we pray, I send a child to church school ….key words being I/we … not the government.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 8:55 am
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