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re: DOGE kills $18M/mo scam in San Antonio - migrant shelter 'nonprofit' was empty

Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:21 am to
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Being the ignorant guy that I am, if I were in charge, I would see quickly that this was too much and send some money back.

Let me get this straight. If you were the CEO, you’d realize that you could do the job for much less than the government had agreed to pay, and you’d send the money back?

And just to clear up another error you made: I’m not defending the contract. It was clearly wasteful; it was part of a terrible cause; like most government contracts, there was probably some second or third order corruption in the form of campaign contributions; but it appears to be legal. As such, you cannot arrest the CEO. That sounds like facism.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:25 am to
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As such, you cannot arrest the CEO. That sounds like facism.


I never advocated arresting anyone. Damn. LOL

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I’m not defending the contract.


My apologies (no sarcasm).

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If you were the CEO, you’d realize that you could do the job for much less than the government had agreed to pay, and you’d send the money back?



Correct. the BILLIONS went somewhere. Someone had to funnel that money to someone else. That is what I'm trying to say.

A good CEO would say "we have too many funds for what this is supposed to be" and either return money or lower the budget the next year. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:29 am to
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EZE Tiger Fan


Hijack but I thought of you as I drove down the obstacle course that is St. Charles avenue the other day. You’ll be pleased to know barriers have been installed to slow/impede traffic. I felt like I was in Mario Kart but I didn’t hate it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:33 am to
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A good CEO would say "we have too many funds for what this is supposed to be" and either return money or lower the budget the next year.

In my career I’ve never come across this kind of CEO.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4616 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:35 am to
Well Bucko...............................you are an ignorant jackass Dem. Go get the "L" tattoo on your forehead, it fits the party well these days.
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12108 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:37 am to
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Lock the Chairman of that non-profit up for a while.

You can’t lock up a guy for executing, and collecting revenues, on a legal contract. It is wasteful government spending, but is legal.


So, they recieve the money and that's the end of their repsonsibility in the transaction? They don't have to actually do what the grant is for? That may very well be how that has worked, and it looks like that is the case for a lot of them. You don't see the problem in that, do you?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:42 am to
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The contract was to maintain capability to handle overflow.


So there should be hundreds of millions of dollars sitting in a bank account that were not used. Yes, hundreds were, but definitely not a large portion of those funds since no migrants were present.

Are those dollars present or have they disappeared?
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:44 am to
2024 rookie
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4789 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:46 am to
Sadly, you were serious.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
2002 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:45 am to
So the explanation from Endeavor isn't *totally* without merit (please keep reading!). If they were being paid to keep the place open for overflow, the fact that it is empty really isn't on them, it's on the Dept of HHS. It's a *little* like saying you wasted money on an emergency generator, because it hasn't been used for six months.

But I still smell a rat. $18M a MONTH, to keep 3,000 beds? That is $200 a day, per bed, just to let them sit on standby? No food bills, little in the way of housekeeping,minimal utility bills, etc. I can get a decently nice hotel room for $200/night. An overflow bed should be more like an Army barracks or hostel or something, not a nice hotel room.

I sure hope they track the money path. People need to go to jail.

This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33414 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:56 am to
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Are those dollars present or have they disappeared?

We all know the answer to that. Pucker factor is extremely high at this Endeavor operation.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13304 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:59 am to
We all knew that there was skimming off the top, but it's unreal how much
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150371 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:20 am to
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Why is Pam Bondi chasing a fake Epstein list instead of going after these crooks?
because that's the red meat that gets mouth breathers riled up and engaged
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:22 am to
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Why is Pam Bondi chasing a fake Epstein list instead of going after these crooks?


Because thats what the voters demanded.

The issue is unrealistic dweebs who chase ghosts while the money is flying out the window.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24435 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:24 am to
Feel like 18M a month of tax payer money being spent is plenty meaty.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1251 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:25 am to
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ou can’t lock up a guy for executing, and collecting revenues, on a legal contract. It is wasteful government spending, but is legal.


Nope but you can hold the persons in our government that signed off on this in the 1st place along on any money that was funneled back as a kick back that is certainly there somewhere.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33414 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:32 am to
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You can’t lock up a guy for executing, and collecting revenues, on a legal contract. It is wasteful government spending, but is legal.

Legalities may be in question. Two of the contract awards were sole source non competitive.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21260 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:43 am to
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MSNBC???? Give me a damn break!!! LMAO

Probably the least trusted media source on the planet. Pure DNC propaganda
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
2002 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 12:36 pm to
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You can’t lock up a guy for executing, and collecting revenues, on a legal contract. It is wasteful government spending, but is legal.


Maybe someone more familiar with Government contracts can chime in, because I really wonder.

My MegaCorp sold communications equipment to the Govt. I recall, long, long ago, when I first started, and when micro-controllers were first being used in portable electronics. We had a line of products that had a number of features built in, but they could be enabled/disabled by just setting some memory bits in the factory. So set the bit to enable feature X, and you charge more for that device, etc.

There was serious questions if we could sell those to the Govt in that form, the idea being we would charge $500 for one device, and $600 for another, when they had the exact same components in them, our costs were the same - was that 'cheating'?

So maybe these contracts have (or are supposed to have), some clauses about what can be passed on as cost from the supplier? I dunno.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:10 pm to
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So there should be hundreds of millions of dollars sitting in a bank account that were not used.

That's not necessarily true. If they had a contract to maintain capability, as has been reported, then why would there be unused money?
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