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re: DNI Gabbard has turned over information to the DOJ
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:42 pm to Houag80
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:42 pm to Houag80
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.our resident legal scholar and chaser of colorful cars told me I was full of shite. Thank you for the reinforcement.
It wasn't really reinforcement.
What's going to enrage a lot of you, ultimately, is that intelligence is more an art that involves a lot of subjectivity and opinion rather than a science. This is going to give everyone involved a LOT of leeway, even those who aren't criminally immune.
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:42 pm to BarnHater
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Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.
I doubt any of the big fish even see a set of handcuffs. Minor Democrats will take the fall. But, Obama, Clinton, Rice, Clapper, et al., will not be touched.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:13 pm to Free888
It would be easier to hold him criminally liable than civilly.
There's a .05% chance he's held criminally liable & a -0% chance he's held to civil liability.
Not that it's not warranted, there's just too much protection for presidents & former presidents in the constitution.
There's a .05% chance he's held criminally liable & a -0% chance he's held to civil liability.
Not that it's not warranted, there's just too much protection for presidents & former presidents in the constitution.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:19 pm to BarnHater
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Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.
You are betting that the first black POTUS is going to be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced in under 6 months?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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These acts were almost assuredly core acts.
You glossed right past this part, didn't you?
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The modern federal crime of seditious conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. § 2384 focuses on conspiracies involving the use of force against the government or its laws.
Important: These legal definitions and limitations on presidential power emphasize that a president's authority does not legitimize seditious acts. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, upholding the rule of law protects against the abuse of power and ensures accountability for all, including elected officials.
In essence, the US legal framework and constitutional principles dictate that a president's power is limited and does not extend to authorizing or participating in seditious acts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 2:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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lso, how is he not absolutely immune from this prosecution? Ignoring the strength of the case, this should fall under executive function which would make him immune.
Real question. If Obama was involved in a coup after Trumps inauguration, even if it started before, does he still have immunity? Is presidential immunity in perpetuity?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:48 pm to BarnHater
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Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.
I wish... but ain't no fricking way.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:51 pm to BarnHater
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I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.
He deserves much worse
But there is no world in which he goes to jail
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:52 pm to Houag80
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I love it when pansy faggler gets all excited talking nonsense
That TDS kicks in and he gets all worked up.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 3:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:11 pm to Houag80
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Not when the executive function is promoting sedition you dumbfrick.
KO
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What's going to enrage a lot of you, ultimately, is that intelligence is more an art that involves a lot of subjectivity and opinion rather than a science.
The documented intelligence that was gathered by people paid to do so states that there is no indication that Russia attempted to or even had the ability to influence the election. Obama saying that his subjective opinion is that the intelligence was wrong isn't going to cut it.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:20 pm to BarnHater
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Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.
If by jail you mean Martha's Vineyard, yes
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:40 pm to BarnHater
Dude, I have more confidence in you than that how about your house, car and permanent. Show me you have real confidence
Posted on 7/21/25 at 4:53 pm to tigerfan 64
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You glossed right past this part, didn't you?
No. It was bad analysis and even worse use of language (sedition)
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:12 pm to tigerfan 64
This is probably what Jack Smith was going to charge Trump with if he lost the election. Sedition.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 5:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You glossed right past this part, didn't you?
quote:I think the doj will make their decisions without conferring your opinion.
No. It was bad analysis and even worse use of language (sedition)
Posted on 7/22/25 at 10:31 am to Tmcgin
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They have deeper pockets than Rudy and My Pillow hoaxer
.....and their base are not rural and will support them unlike above
do it anyway - keep them from spending on more effective things - keep their attorneys busy - make them watch what they say - make their dinner time conversations more entertaining.
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