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re: DJT wants a 50% tariff on the EU

Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:43 am to
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He has no short term memory.


Any you have no balls or sphincter control.
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1509 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:46 am to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Trump’s instability is a huge problem.


I think the tariffs were initially a fine idea because everyone knows what they're for. But up and down and up and down on a weekly basis makes it hard to do negotiating and even harder to plan on the domestic business side.

Set the tariff and leave it there until negotiated away. Then everyone knows the deck they're playing with.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10602 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:50 am to
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Set the tariff and leave it there until negotiated away. Then everyone knows the deck they're playing with.


OR and here is a wacky idea

What is discussed privately is not the same as what is discussed publicly and here is the real tricky part - something in those private discussions may have triggered this today.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4713 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:50 am to
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This is in response to the EU shitting all over our deal with the UK and talking tough


The target has always been the ECB & cities of London/Brussels.

SOFR vs LIBOR

ECB running out of Dollars

quote:

Dollar Shortage as Power Lever

Behind Europe’s protective wall, the situation is shifting. After years of Brexit paralysis, Brussels and London are now searching for ways out of their trade deadlock. The U.S.’s 90-day tariff moratorium has jolted both parties into action—the practical result being a partial reversal of Brexit. Together, they are preparing for a protracted negotiation marathon with Washington, united in a front of protectionists. But Washington has already found a fitting lever to crack Fortress Europe: the Eurodollar market and the credit mechanisms outside the Federal Reserve’s jurisdiction.

With the end of the LIBOR contract—a former global benchmark for short-term interbank loans—on June 30, 2023, and the introduction of the U.S. alternative SOFR (Secured Overnight Financing Rate), the United States has fully seized control over dollar loan pricing. While LIBOR had been dominated by European banks and subject to interest-rate manipulation, SOFR is based on actual secured repo transactions in the U.S. market—largely immune to manipulation. Under this new structure, dollar credit becomes more expensive—bad news for Europeans long accustomed to cheap dollar financing.

The United States is deliberately freeing itself from the influence of European institutions that had previously defended their solvency through low interest rates and distorted global monetary conditions. With the loss of LIBOR, Europe has forfeited a key control instrument over its dollar financing and now faces the challenge of adapting to a strictly market-based regime.


This has been a protracted banker war for the future with Europe's ECB interests vs the US Citizen's interests. With the US fighting with one hand tied behind its back. You can see this clear as day with NATO/CIA and their actions.

Just which side in the Fed on? - NY/Wall Street's side.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7848 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:51 am to
On a positive note, he finally admitted who pays the tariffs.

MAGA can stop doing all the goofy mental jumping jacks.

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This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96899 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:52 am to
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This seems stable



They'll cave soon enough. Watch. Europe can't even handle their own problems.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10602 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:55 am to
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They'll cave soon enough. Watch. Europe can't even handle their own problems.


Who knows? Someone negotiating for them may have mentioned that he wouldn't raise the tariffs because of the worst April in the history of the markets.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:56 am to
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The complaint that he's all over the place was valid, and still is.


With the constant backtracking (90 day pauses, etc.), it's hard to take anything he says seriously...including his post about recommending to himself a 50% tariff.

Maybe this loose cannon approach helps negotiations, but the one thing I know is there won't be a 50% tariff on EU goods on June 1....that lasts more than 72 hours.
Posted by Augustus516
Member since Oct 2024
431 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:07 am to
I pray that is the case. I almost expect him to fully walk back, or say the fake news distorted his post.

In the meantime this fker causes havoc in the markets when someone simple like me is trying to do the right thing.

And then that makes me start believing the posts are for ill-gotten gain
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115324 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:08 am to
Remember the EU ministers bitching about the deal between the US and UK? How they weren't going to accept a similar deal?

Guess they may need to rethink that.
Posted by Shredded
Member since May 2025
112 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:09 am to
Trump also says Apple has to pay 25% Tariff on IPhones not made in the USA.

Stock Futures down big.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14807 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:09 am to
Leverage.....The US holds it.....why not use it to get a more favorable environment


They need us more the we need them......
Posted by Lt. Columbo
Member since Nov 2012
1922 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:11 am to
This man gets it! Go back and re-read this post.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5964 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:12 am to
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Trump also says Apple has to pay 25% Tariff on IPhones not made in the USA.

Stock Futures down big.


Trump has already caved on this....twice. Once in 2018 and again just a couple of months ago.

Who can believe what he says anymore.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:13 am to
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Trump has already caved on this....twice. Once in 2018 and again just a couple of months ago.

Who can believe what he says anymore.


NIH had a perfect summary with the initial reply
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19258 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:15 am to
Would you rather have EU to continue raking us ?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68333 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:16 am to
The plan seems to be whatever DJT decides when he wakes up that day. But, the usual suspects will tell us we don't understand, you can't show your cards in negotiation, it's all 8D chess, blah, blah.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:17 am to
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The plan seems to be whatever DJT decides when he wakes up that day. But, the usual suspects will tell us we don't understand, you can't show your cards in negotiation, it's all 8D chess, blah, blah.

If you propose infinite goals of a policy, then you can never be wrong when the result actually unfolds.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14223 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:18 am to
Are you illiterate?

Do you have someone else write your posts?
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