re: DJT - “I don’t want to drive housing prices down. I want to drive housing prices up.”

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he's got a cult full of people who support it, even if it's self-contradictory.

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If people didn't learn this during the tariff discussions they're not teachable.

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What he's doing now is feeling around the edges to get a better handle on what the people who might vote R but are not in the cult want to hear.

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This. He doesn't have to run again so MAGA doesn't matter that much. He wants to be liked by as many of the American people as possible and that's driving his second term even more than his first.

All you little titty babies need to grow up. You're in the real world now. Find a house you can afford, not THE house you want/desire. Lock in the price by buying it (commute a long way for a few years if you have to). Fix it up some, build equity as the price rises, sell it and get a better house. Wash, rinse and repeat. In 30 years or so, maybe you can afford your "desirable" home. Even if you can't, you'll have a home that's likely much better than your first. Whining, complaining, bitching, griping and wanting will get you nowhere. As my late father said, "Want in one hand and shyte in the other. Let me know which one gets full first".

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What year did you purchase your first home?

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First house on a foundation, 1995. First place to live (single wide trailer) 1991.

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I saw many "experts" here

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If they were here, they were not experts.

Any more than you or I am.

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say in April that the tariffs would cause massive price increases, market collapse and tremendous issues here in America. They were wrong too....

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What was the time frame they guaranteed you those things would happen by? They said hose things would happen immediately? i don't remember people saying that. I remember the opposite, in fact.

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Really. Let's see

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The data I pulled said a few things:

1. Vehicle prices have gone down the past three years (when you factor in what people are actually paying vs what the sticker price is) almost 13%

2. But that's because they went up so high during COVID with the chip shortage

3. Historically over the long view cars have increased in price at a rate lower than inflation.

4. Even with the 13% drop, vehicle prices are still well above the trend they were on before COVID. Over half of the rise in prices between 2010 and 2022 happened during COVID. We are at a "new normal" of higher prices now...the 13% correction is expected to be about all you're going to see.

From one source (emphasis mine):

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Rather than a full return to pre-COVID pricing, the market now operates in a higher price range influenced by lingering supply shifts, tariffs, stronger demand, and tech costs.

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5. Used cars—even though the gap between them ad new cars narrowed during COVID—have fallen in price relative to new ones. 2024 saw the widest gap between used cars and new cars ever recorded. It narrowed from that high in 2025, but it's still a wider gap than pre COVID prices.

So you can still save quite a bit of money buying used.

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What exactly does the tax paying, self sufficient, and responsible American get? What?

-millennials and Gen z get thousands of student loan forgiveness.
-The irresponsible gets ebt, section 8, subsidies, Medicaid etc
-illegals gets the same.
-low income gets assistance and subsidies for healthcare.

What TF does the solid middle and upper middle class get? Beside more hands out in front of us?

When something swings in our favor we have to feel friken guilty by the people with the hands out? Why is that?

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Good reality-breakdown.

Mockingbird Media & academia have always targeted the Middle Class with guilt as the Elites' main target. They have also been resentful of the Middle Class climbing up the economic rungs and obtaining political power, so feral socialism and spending policies are designed to specifically knock them back down on their arse.

The common thread seems to be gubmint (Banker-Puppets) "leveling out the playing field" WHILE booby-trapping stability of the housing market and currency.

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yeah you clowns said it was the end of the world

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Never right and wrong again.

I'll bet you as much as you'd like to bet that you can't find one quote of mine making that claim.

I have always said that the effects would be visible even to the biggest idiots by summer of 2026 and Trump would start walking them back at that point so as not to blow mid terms.

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Eric Nies Grind Time

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Now days, you can buy one of those prebuilt buildings. I just purchased a 16X40 building for 14900 plus tax delivered. It's going to cost me a couple thousand for the chert pad to put it on (they have not delivered yet). So I will have the building in place for about 20K. I'm using mine for a woodworking shop (lathe turning bowls/platters). A young couple could build one of those tiny homes in a 16x40 for probably 60K, especially if you used some reclaimed materials.

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If people didn't learn this during the tariff discussions they're not teachable.

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You mean the tariffs that DID NOT cause any of the problems you so called "experts" predicted?

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I've been buying and selling housing and properties for decades.

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If true, seems you'd be smarter.

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and hasn't been since the shenanigans of 2020-2021.

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What 'shenanigans" do you speak of?

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That WAS the formula before 2021. "It's dead Jim." Normal appreciation had been 3% for several decades, while most "starter homes" were easily approachable. The problem: The Controller-Elites have changed all the system and rules of the past (They call this their "RESET".)

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Keep whining, bitching and complaining then. Doesn't bother me. "I can't" never did anything.