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re: Disney Previews the First 30 Minutes of “Lightyear” at CinemaCon
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:53 am to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:53 am to DingLeeBerry
May as well just bootleg chinese versions of films i'm interested in now.
Also, it's quite clearly grooming.
Also, it's quite clearly grooming.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:55 am
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:56 am to TrussvilleTide
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I don't think my position is any more morally correct than anyone else's.
Problem is that our moral positions are on different plains if you think grooming indoctrination is not an issue. There is no middle ground to be found, and your sides moral compass is taking you in totally different direction.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:58 am to DingLeeBerry
But keep watching D+ folks. It’s Disney. Good wholesome family entertainment.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:08 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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But keep watching D+ folks. It’s Disney. Good wholesome family entertainment.
I cancelled D+ when I realized I my kids were just watching the same handful of 90s movies on it.
So much better to just torrent what you need.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:09 am to KAGTASTIC
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if you think grooming indoctrination is not an issue
I do think its an issue, which is why I stated in the comment that you literally replied to what I am not ok with. I don't think the mere presence of someone and them doing something organically that isn't focused on is grooming. You do, thats fine. We won't and don't have to agree on it.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:11 am to jimmy the leg
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it’s just an accurate reflection of the type of people that exist in the world.
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So do pedos. I guess you want them to be represented as well.
Maybe one of the worst strawman arguments I've ever seen. Leftists would be proud of you.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:15 am to DeathValley85
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Maybe one of the worst strawman arguments I've ever seen. Leftists would be proud of you.
People think you have to be absolutely on one side or absolutely on the other. We can't just as a society come together and say "the line is here, don't go over it and we are good" anymore, and if you try people just say "slippery slope!" and act like we haven't had and enforced societal norms for hundreds of years.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:19 am to TrussvilleTide
quote:LOL what?
them doing something organically
like i said earlier, this is an animated movie. people have to plan every single bit of movement and dialog that goes into it. that is absolutely not "organic", and it's actually the exact opposite of organic. it's all meticulously planned, and for some reason, it's very important for Disney to go out of their way to make sure kids are exposed to it. and for some reason, it's very important for you to let everyone know it's perfectly natural and no big deal at all for adults to plan this sort of exposure to children, when "literally" no parent on earth is asking for it.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:27 am to Logician
The characters in the film can do something organically, its pretty clear thats what I was referring to, i.e. not a forced situation clearly added just to appease the left or whoever else. If two characters just kiss because they are about to go their separate ways for a while, thats an organic situation within the context of the movie.
As far as something being "organic" during the animation process, you are right that nothing is because they deliberately choose what to add and what not to add, however my point is about what is happening on screen. But when does it go from "they are just adding this to appeal to the left" to "thats just something people do and its in the movie"? Not saying that its here in this situation, I'm asking the question. Homosexuality is being normalized in a lot more places than just movies, and its just something you see occasionally now and eventually you won't even hear about scenes like this being in something before it comes out.
As far as something being "organic" during the animation process, you are right that nothing is because they deliberately choose what to add and what not to add, however my point is about what is happening on screen. But when does it go from "they are just adding this to appeal to the left" to "thats just something people do and its in the movie"? Not saying that its here in this situation, I'm asking the question. Homosexuality is being normalized in a lot more places than just movies, and its just something you see occasionally now and eventually you won't even hear about scenes like this being in something before it comes out.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:27 am to TrussvilleTide
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People think you have to be absolutely on one side or absolutely on the other. We can't just as a society come together and say "the line is here, don't go over it and we are good" anymore, and if you try people just say "slippery slope!" and act like we haven't had and enforced societal norms for hundreds of years.
I think you're trying to debate with people who think gays are sinful wicked abominations. You won't have a meaningful discussion with someone who thinks that about where the line should be. That's just the truth.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:29 am to TrussvilleTide
quote:it's hard to imagine someone being this naïve.
We can't just as a society come together and say "the line is here, don't go over it and we are good" anymore
there WAS a line. it was "all we want to do is get married, that's all! stop being bigots and let love reign!" everyone bought into that. i did, and i honestly still do. i still support gay marriage and gay people in general.
but the line has been moving very very quickly. now we're at the point where there is a low level push for pedophilia, just like the gay marriage push started. just like any slippery slope begins. if you don't believe that giving in slowly to things like homosexual kisses in kids shows isn't the start of normalizing pedos, you're at best woefully ignorant and naïve if you're honestly too simple to see it, and at worst you're an enabler if you understand the repercussions of allowing a constant offset of this line you're talking about and do nothing at all.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:31 am to DeathValley85
quote:wrong again. just said i support gay marriage. i do not support a pedophilia slippery slope, which is exactly what this is.
I think you're trying to debate with people who think gays are sinful wicked abominations. You won't have a meaningful discussion with someone who thinks that about where the line should be. That's just the truth.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:36 am to Logician
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it's hard to imagine someone being this naïve.
I was thinking the same thing reading your posts.
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there WAS a line. it was "all we want to do is get married, that's all! stop being bigots and let love reign!" everyone bought into that. i did, and i honestly still do. i still support gay marriage and gay people in general.
Thats the point of my post, both sides have dug in and now "just let them get married" is either not enough or too much.
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homosexual kisses in kids shows isn't the start of normalizing pedos
I don't think there should be kissing at all in kids shows. But if its going to be in there, I don't see a difference between a straight couple or gay couple if its done in a tasteful way that doesn't glorify anything.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:38 am to DeathValley85
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I think you're trying to debate with people who think gays are sinful wicked abominations. You won't have a meaningful discussion with someone who thinks that about where the line should be. That's just the truth.
Yeah I know its a lost cause. I'm not really trying to debate anything, I'm just throwing it out there that I don't think a kiss between a homosexual couple in a very specific context isn't going to corrupt children, but apparently thats grooming and radical
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:38 am to Logician
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i do not support a pedophilia slippery slope, which is exactly what this is.
I have no clue what's in the movie, but that seems more like a leap than a slippery slope
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:41 am to DeathValley85
Look out, hes about to call you naïve and rant about how you are killing morals in this country
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:49 am to DeathValley85
quote:that's for sure
I have no clue
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:55 am to TrussvilleTide
quote:but LOL
I don't think there should be kissing at all in kids shows. But
you don't think it should be there, but this one time, let's just let it go. it's fine. it's no big deal. that's what a slippery slope is.
what's actually happening is you know it shouldn't be there, by your own admission, but you're either too cool or scared to call it out. it'll make you look like a "ranter" or a crazy old guy if you act offended by it.
it's ok, you can have an issue with it, and that won't make you a crazy, ranting, Q enthusiast...just like kids watching some gay kissing won't make them gay, right?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:57 am to DingLeeBerry
So what should have been a fun adventure story for all ages turns into a propaganda film for same sex marriage? Shameful.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:01 am to Logician
Your ability to think without any semblance of nuance is honestly incredible
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