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re: Disney Previews the First 30 Minutes of “Lightyear” at CinemaCon
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:06 am to Jon Ham
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:06 am to Jon Ham
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It’s not simply about kids seeing a quick kiss. It’s the whole context and motivations of the producers that make this an issue.
But apparently it is about that.
If the presence of that scene is enough to get you to not go, its absolutely about a quick kiss.
There is subtext/hidden meaning/etc in many if not most movies. When I watch Moby Dick I can examine the themes (Man vs God, man vs Nature) or I can enjoy it just as the barebones story. Young kids won't understand more than the barebones story. What the producers and directors wanted to convey with a movie doesn't mean a whole lot to a kid if it isn't directly fleshed out in simple terms on the screen.
And like I mentioned in another comment, the context of the scene matters. Do they play it up and zoom in/focus on the kiss, or is it just something that happens in passing? I don't know. I just find it hard to believe its going to corrupt any kids, especially if you actual parent them and tell them what you expect from them.
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:07 am to joshnorris14
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Children want to see themselves represented
You're focusing on other parts of that quote, but this part is the theme of what she is saying and actually is important. Black Panther meant a lot to young black kids, whether they are 50% of the population or 12%.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:08 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:10 am to TrussvilleTide
So your take is that it’s totally fine to start including explicit homosexual behavior in kids’ movies because you don’t think that will influence kids’ minds or development in a way that could increase the likelihood they will be gay?
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:14 am to Jon Ham
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So your take is that it’s totally fine to start including explicit homosexual behavior in kids’ movies because you don’t think that will influence kids’ minds or development in a way that could increase the likelihood they will be gay?
My take is that if you are concerned about your kid seeing a quick kiss and eventually turning gay, then you probably just shouldn't take your kid anywhere in public except some churches, and you should homeschool them.
Ill reiterate that the context of it matters. If its something that happens on screen in passing, I don't think its influencing kids. If they focus on it and play it up, then sure.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:17 am to TrussvilleTide
Black Panther has had an oversized effect on black Americans in general, but not necessarily a positive one.
Wakanda is now a utopia to them and they don’t realize or care that the reason it was a utopia to their people was that they used their resources wisely and generally stayed out of everyone else’s affairs.
You now have idiots saying “Wakanda now, Wakanda forever!” and thinking that the reason they don’t have Wakanda is because they haven’t been given it.
They also likely wonder why they can’t travel to Zamunda.
Wakanda is now a utopia to them and they don’t realize or care that the reason it was a utopia to their people was that they used their resources wisely and generally stayed out of everyone else’s affairs.
You now have idiots saying “Wakanda now, Wakanda forever!” and thinking that the reason they don’t have Wakanda is because they haven’t been given it.
They also likely wonder why they can’t travel to Zamunda.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:19 am to teke184
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Black Panther has had an oversized effect on black Americans in general, but not necessarily a positive one.
Wakanda is now a utopia to them and they don’t realize or care that the reason it was a utopia to their people was that they used their resources wisely and generally stayed out of everyone else’s affairs.
You now have idiots saying “Wakanda now, Wakanda forever!” and thinking that the reason they don’t have Wakanda is because they haven’t been given it.
They also likely wonder why they can’t travel to Zamunda.
Yeah I'm calling bullcrap on this one. A few kids feel this way I'm sure, I don't think its an outsized epidemic among the population. Get off the internet, the people here are a small minority.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:20 am to TrussvilleTide
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Overarchingly, Jennifer does believe, based on her own research and that of her peers, that children can be significantly impacted by film, and it can have a real effect on how they view themselves and the world around them.
Specifically, when asked directly if she believes children are strongly influenced by movies, she answered, “I do. Children identify with and want to emulate the characters that they see on-screen; particularly the characters that they view as attractive, confident, and successful.”
LINK
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:23 am to TrussvilleTide
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If its something that happens on screen in passing, I don't think its influencing kids.
Whew. It’s ok everyone! TrussvilleTide has determined showing explicit homosexual behavior to kids in movies WILL NOT influence your child. We can all relax now.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:25 am to TrussvilleTide
I see people wearing BP shite around and they tend to be the same kinds of people who claim “disrespect” over minor bullshite.
Is the BP film and mythology itself a problem? No. But it is a MarySuetopia and the people heavily buying into it tend to be the same idiots who think it is The Man’s fault that they can’t do whatever.
It has become a cultural identity thing without even a thought as to why something is like that.
Same idiots are also wearing “Straight Outta xxx” shirts because of the NWA biopic. Good movie but if a band called “naggers with attitude” is a cultural touchstone for you, I don’t think it bodes well.
Is the BP film and mythology itself a problem? No. But it is a MarySuetopia and the people heavily buying into it tend to be the same idiots who think it is The Man’s fault that they can’t do whatever.
It has become a cultural identity thing without even a thought as to why something is like that.
Same idiots are also wearing “Straight Outta xxx” shirts because of the NWA biopic. Good movie but if a band called “naggers with attitude” is a cultural touchstone for you, I don’t think it bodes well.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:25 am to Jon Ham
Feel free to believe differently. I'm not an authority on the issue and never claimed to be, and neither are you. This board has lots of people with lots of different opinions chiming in all day long, try not to get triggered when one is different from yours.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:26 am to DingLeeBerry
So stunning and brave!
But if her partner isn’t a trans woman, there should be a mass boycott!
But if her partner isn’t a trans woman, there should be a mass boycott!
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:27 am to DingLeeBerry
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:27 am to Jon Ham
Wanting to emulate mannerisms/quote a character isn't the same as deciding you have a certain sexual preference for the rest of your life because that character had that preference 
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:29 am to TrussvilleTide
Disney relies on the on virtue signaling sheep like you to support its bullshite. Don’t be triggered when I confront your awful take that supports actions that I feel are undoubtedly harmful to children.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:31 am to Jon Ham
How am I virtue signaling? I said I don't think a quick kiss in passing is a big deal, how stunning and brave of me
The internet went downhill when people in your age bracket figured out how to get on it.
The internet went downhill when people in your age bracket figured out how to get on it.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:31 am to DingLeeBerry
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An emotional montage shows glimpses of Alisha and her partner starting a family together
I wanna see em do it the old fashioned way. I'll wait
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:36 am to DingLeeBerry
Looks like the Groomers are polishing up their talking points in this thread. Must be needed since they are dropping the whole "born this/that way" line.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:39 am to TrussvilleTide
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How am I virtue signaling? I said I don't think a quick kiss in passing is a big deal, how stunning and brave of me
No, you are saying you are “ok” with kids’ movies explicitly showing homosexual behavior. That is the definition of virtue signaling.
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The internet went downhill when people in your age bracket figured out how to get on it.
I’m 35. I’ve been on the internet since I was 5 years old.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:46 am to Jon Ham
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No, you are saying you are “ok” with kids’ movies explicitly showing homosexual behavior. That is the definition of virtue signaling.
As long as it isn't glorifying it, I am ok with it. I don't think anything sexual should be glorified, emphasized, or "taught", whether thats in media or in schools.
Gay people make up 3% of the population... in a movie with a hundred people in it, if 2 of the 3 gay people (if we are accurate proportionally) kiss, hug, talk about dating each other, etc in a way thats organic, I just don't see the big deal or how that is going to corrupt minds.
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Virtue Signaling - the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
I don't think my position is any more morally correct than anyone elses. You just think something is a huge deal that I don't have a problem with. If they get preachy with the scene, its zoomed in while being in slow motion, dramatic music playing, etc thats totally different and I'm not ok with it. I haven't once said you are wrong, I said how I feel about it. And I also said I haven't looked into the context of the scene in particular, because I'm not seeing the movie regardless.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:52 am to Jon Ham
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No, you are saying you are “ok” with kids’ movies explicitly showing homosexual behavior. That is the definition of virtue signaling.
This is the funny part....the Groomers are acting like we want kids to be sexualized in a heterosexual way, so they are trying to pit it against each other. Which is far from the truth, as we don't want that either, but they want to push their side but don't want to push the hetero side calling it homo/trans phobic. Ask any if they would be ok to teach the Religious approach to it, and they will of course say no that's (D)ifferent.
We just want kids to natural come to their own conclusions, not indoctrinated. They just know that they can't confirm the "we are born this way" myth, when the natural approach is taken, so they need to groom them before that.
They are diabolical sick people.
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