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re: Disney Previews the First 30 Minutes of “Lightyear” at CinemaCon
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:13 am to teke184
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:13 am to teke184
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No, they didn’t change anything about her, but the character is a fairly newish one given all the Marvel characters to pull from and honestly not as interesting as a lot of others.
Chavez is a standard “flying brick” archetype who happens to be a lesbian Latina with two mommies. The “flying brick” is pretty much the standard superhero which isn’t of much interest because they either destroy everything too easily or they get knocked out in some way so they can make the villain seem like a threat.
If they wanted to pull any character from the multiverse of Marvel in, there were tons of others they could have used and yet they chose her.
It looks like they are pulling in several new characters in this one, and her story is fairly popular from the comics.
Besides Yuki and Teenage Mutant WhateverHerName from Deadpool I can't really think of any gay or lesbian characters in a Marvel movie of any importance. I know I am probably forgetting someone, but with all the characters you might even be close to your 3% representation.
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:14 am to Froman
quote:look at these lies you have to tell yourself to justify grooming.
it’s not being “woke”, it’s just
disney doesn't have a woke agenda? that's your stance? at least try to lie convincingly. no one believes that garbage.
do you realize that they choose every bit of dialog and every line and color that goes into their animated movies? they're CHOOSING to push gay sex and gay marriage on children. someone DECIDED that this is an important part of the plot of a kid's movie. it's wholly unnecessary at best and at worst fricking perverted and deranged for this to be gratuitously inserted in an established series for kids.
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:20 am to ABearsFanNMS
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A vast majority of the population won’t
This isn't true
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You keep going to them and visiting Disney then
I've never said I do either. I said its going to keep happening.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:20 am to mmcgrath
Eternals had some characters who were trans or gay but no one cares or remembers because Eternals was a film no one wanted to see. A Disney exec trumpeted the gay / trans portions of the film and that she would push more of that then got offended when the film failed IIRC.
There are other characters which are LBGT whatever out there in the films but those aspects aren’t necessarily emphasized to the point where they become a GAY superhero vs a gay SUPERHERO.
There are other characters which are LBGT whatever out there in the films but those aspects aren’t necessarily emphasized to the point where they become a GAY superhero vs a gay SUPERHERO.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:21 am to DingLeeBerry
Disney has been doing this for years.
Wonder how many times Brittany Spears was abused on the Mickey Mouse Club... as well as other children.
Wonder how many times Brittany Spears was abused on the Mickey Mouse Club... as well as other children.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:25 am to Azkiger
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If you saw a gay couple going into a store you and your young kid were about to walk into, would you react the same way (avoid going in to expose your child) you would with this movie?
How would my child know they are gay if they are just going in together and shopping? As opposed to a movie showing homosexuals getting engaged to be married and kissing.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:27 am to DingLeeBerry
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Are retail stores popular places to make out in your neck of the woods?
Do you think the characters in a buzz lightyear movie are going to make out?
Its probably/almost 100% likely that its a quick kiss. I see people do that at retail stores.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:30 am to Froman
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How is this even news? It would be unrealistic if there WASN’T a gay person in a movie or tv show. People need to chill on making a big deal whenever they see a same sex couple on their tv. It’s not being “woke”, it’s just an accurate reflection of the type of people that exist in the world.
In a movie for kids? No problems there, right? Progressive assclowns are like cockroaches.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:31 am to TrussvilleTide
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You're going to be avoiding a lot of movies. This trend isn't going away.
The culture war is just getting started. Keep thinking that your side has already won.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:31 am to teke184
quote:Yes, the black guy was gay. The leader never displayed any sexuality, but the rest of the team were straight. I actually liked that movie.
Eternals had some characters who were trans or gay but no one cares or remembers because Eternals was a film no one wanted to see. A Disney exec trumpeted the gay / trans portions of the film and that she would push more of that then got offended when the film failed IIRC.
So that gets us to 3 including the latest in Dr. Strange. And Deadpool is rated R so not sure anyone would have a huge issue with it.
I just don't see the 25-50% claim being made. One could argue that up until a few years ago Marvel movies have had a noticeable absence of gay characters.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:31 am to DingLeeBerry
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Opening up about America Chavez's identity, Marvel Studios' Victoria Alonso told Marvel.com: "It was important that we make the effort to have every kid in this world represented in our universe, and she represents both the LGBTQ+ and Latinx community... "[America] is a young Latina who is part of the LGBTQ+ community, and has great power. Children want to see themselves represented," she added.
Do these retards not care that Latino people aren't onboard with butchering their language like this?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:32 am to DingLeeBerry
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Doctor Strange actress and hubby groomed girl, 13, for sex: UK court told
The new Disney.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:32 am to DaleGribble
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The culture war is just getting started. Keep thinking that your side has already won.
I don't have a side. The right has better points on the issue generally.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:34 am to TrussvilleTide
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Its probably/almost 100% likely that its a quick kiss. I see people do that at retail stores.
Yeah there’s little difference between the .000001% chance my kid will ever randomly see a gay couple kiss in a store and the production of a kids’ movie that will be seen by millions of kids that intentionally and explicitly shows homosexual attraction.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:39 am to Jon Ham
I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I'm saying if you really think that just seeing a quick peck kiss is going to turn your kid gay then wouldn't you avoid any situation where they even MIGHT see it?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:46 am to DingLeeBerry
Folks...why is any of this a surprise? Disney and the rest of the entertainment industry has been OPENLY TELLING YOU what they are doing, and yet most people have continued to fund them anyway.
Now, that's perfectly fine if you agree with their agenda...and that's the actual word Disney used when describing their desire to include "queer" issues in their content...an agenda. If you don't, what's the problem with walking away from these people and not handing over your hard earned money to them?
This reminds me of lefties that refused to accept what Radical Islamicists would say in regards to why they committed the atrocities they did. It wouldn't matter what they told them, The Left would fall back into excuses for their behavior which had nothing to do with what they were directly saying they did it or. What's it going to take for people in the Center or Right of Center to clean the shite out of their ears and act on the information these companies are giving them?
Now, that's perfectly fine if you agree with their agenda...and that's the actual word Disney used when describing their desire to include "queer" issues in their content...an agenda. If you don't, what's the problem with walking away from these people and not handing over your hard earned money to them?
This reminds me of lefties that refused to accept what Radical Islamicists would say in regards to why they committed the atrocities they did. It wouldn't matter what they told them, The Left would fall back into excuses for their behavior which had nothing to do with what they were directly saying they did it or. What's it going to take for people in the Center or Right of Center to clean the shite out of their ears and act on the information these companies are giving them?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:55 am to TrussvilleTide
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I'm saying if you really think that just seeing a quick peck kiss is going to turn your kid gay then wouldn't you avoid any situation where they even MIGHT see it?
It’s not simply about kids seeing a quick kiss. It’s the whole context and motivations of the producers that make this an issue.
To a kid, and even adults, movies can be larger than life. When you’re in a theatre, you are literally “looking up” at the movie with your undivided attention. Selecting a movie and taking time to see it implicates there’s something “special” and worth experiencing. Kids adore and are influenced by movies like Toy Story.
Disney producers want to exploit this tunnel they into kids’ brains and hearts by exposing kids to and celebrating non-hetero behavior. Young children who see these movies are just beginning to understand what romance is, what adult relationships are, and what family dynamics are. My 4 year old has to spend great effort to even explain who his uncle is or why his cousins are his cousins. They are developing minds that need more time to mature before introducing kink sexuality that could impact or influence their development and perspectives. The fact that I even have to explain that to you is ridiculous.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:58 am to DingLeeBerry
Don’t worry, Disney will be sure to edit out all those gay character references for the Chinese theaters. They only want American kids to feel included. Gay Chinese kids don’t deserve that.
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:59 am to Jon Ham
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It’s not simply about kids seeing a quick kiss. It’s the whole context and motivations of the producers that make this an issue.
Again, they are telling us WHY they are doing it. We can either listen and act accordingly, or ignore their own words and pretend it's meaningless.
To be honest, that's kind of insulting to these activists who, I can assure you, do not find these things moves meaningless. If they were meaningless, they would not be pushing do hard to have them in.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:03 am to TrussvilleTide
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I don't know the context of the scene, but just showing a couple on TV who isn't hetero isn't steering, influencing, or nurturing anything.
If it turns into some gay power thing with a rant about "acceptance" and huge focus on it then thats different.
Opening up about America Chavez's identity, Marvel Studios' Victoria Alonso told Marvel.com: "It was important that we make the effort to have every kid in this world represented in our universe, and she represents both the LGBTQ+ and Latinx community... "[America] is a young Latina who is part of the LGBTQ+ community, and has great power. Children want to see themselves represented," she added.
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