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re: Did the Rebecca Lobach scrubbing accomplish anything?
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:19 am to Ingeniero
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:19 am to Ingeniero
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This wasn't the progression, as far as I'm aware. She went from ROTC to national guard, then Army in 2019.
Yes, but at a certain point in time she was at the Whitehouse, how long was she there?
Ralph Lauren got the medal of freedom Jan 4th 2025. So we know she was just there.
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Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:19 am to Stinger_1066
Elon will likely voluntarily turn over her scrubbed X account to investigators. Zuckerberg will likely require a subpoena to turn over her FB and Instagram.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:21 am to I20goon
Is there more on that?
I’ve seen a few times that she’s been a full time staffer for Biden and therefore hadn’t flown in about 2 years. So when did she go back? Was it because of the election? Or is that all BS?
I’ve seen a few times that she’s been a full time staffer for Biden and therefore hadn’t flown in about 2 years. So when did she go back? Was it because of the election? Or is that all BS?
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:21 am to Stinger_1066
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She was woke. There is no disputing it
Joe Burrow is woke. He's still excellent at quarterbacking, despite some mistakes.
Other than this horrible accident (for which she is obviously somewhat at fault), do we know of Captain Lobach not being a good aviator?
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:21 am to Mandtgr47
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This entire situation blows for the Innocents that should have never died without DEI.
First I upvoted your entire post because I agree with everything you said.
But, I have to point out that accidents happen regardless of the skill, experience, motivation, past history, of the individuals involved.
The great disservice DEI does to the discussion of ANYTHING is that it is so anti-logical that it becomes the whipping boy for anything that goes wrong.
DEI is the worst initiative ever conceived, simply for that reason - every time something horrible happens, the initial reaction is that IF there had NOT been a DEI hire in a critical position, then the accident would NOT have happened.
This is flawed logic - but it does point out the absolute sinkhole of logic regarding any semblance of DEI.
IF you are going to use DEI to staff critical positions, then you better be damned sure that DEI person is the absolute BEST choice available.
But then it wouldn't be a DEI hire, would it??
Which further destroys the concept of DEI.
DEI is the most erosive policy ever conceived under the guise of Ameritocracy. It MUST be rooted out so that we can leave that concept in the outhouse of historical malfeasance.
I don't think this disaster - based on what we know now - points directly to DEI - but is DOES point to the DISASTER that DEI has been demonstrated to be because it unnecessary complicates the search for REAL causes for EVERY disaster by introducing the need to first disprove the concept of DEI being the primary cause.
Such a waste of energy, time, money pursuing a logically stupid concept.
Get rid of DEI and rid ourselves of the self-imposed crippling disease.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:21 am to I20goon
It’s harder to fire the latter when an administration changes
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:22 am to Stinger_1066
If the understaffed ATC was the primary reason for vehicle not being in the right flight path, why go to all the trouble to scrub the history of the female pilot?
Delaying the release of her name, and going through all that effort, only invites speculation, whereas if they had just released all the names at once, there would be nowhere for the “conspiracy” to go.
Delaying the release of her name, and going through all that effort, only invites speculation, whereas if they had just released all the names at once, there would be nowhere for the “conspiracy” to go.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
True but NFL players don’t get playing time based on wokeness. It’s a bit different in the military.
Thats what needs to be examined
Thats what needs to be examined
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:23 am to I20goon
I can find no fault with your logic there. Agree in all the particulars.
Need more folks to stop and think for a second.
Need more folks to stop and think for a second.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:24 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:As another poster noted we do know she was the escort of Ralph Lauren at the white house on Jan 4th.
I’ve seen a few times that she’s been a full time staffer for Biden and therefore hadn’t flown in about 2 years. So when did she go back? Was it because of the election? Or is that all BS?
Appears she was there 2 years. And was still doing white house "tour duty" up to Jan 4th.
On Jan 29th she was on a training flight that crashes into another plane.
ETA: is it possible that she was angry about Trump, trannies, or putting gays in camps BS and suicided them all? yes. But this isn't a commercial flight with a locked cabin and a disabled crew. We know at least one of the others was alive and functioning from communications with ATC. I would imagine they didn't want to die as a martyr and would have at least grabbed the stick and cyclic if not beat her to near death before that happens. We all saw the video... what 7 seconds we can see this helo making a bee line towards the flight. Plenty of time for them to react. So I highly doubt this is the case.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 7:30 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:31 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:If you are conditioned for that to be the response, and it has been for a very long time the people involved don’t see it as trouble but standard procedure.
If the understaffed ATC was the primary reason for vehicle not being in the right flight path, why go to all the trouble to scrub the history of the female pilot?
I don’t exempt Trumps first term in that, as I don’t think he had that sort of thing as high on his priorities. He told people to handle it and expect they would. He’s better prepared this time for the fight.
quote:Think about a year ago how this would be handled. The media wouldn’t even ask.
Delaying the release of her name, and going through all that effort, only invites speculation, whereas if they had just released all the names at once, there would be nowhere for the “conspiracy” to go.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:32 am to Vacherie Saint
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True but NFL players don’t get playing time based on wokeness. It’s a bit different in the military.
Thats what needs to be examined
Excellent point.
Does anybody know the accident rate of female militaryvhelicopter pilots compared to males?
I am searching now....
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:47 am to Mandtgr47
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Here are the facts. The weather was VFR conditions. The chopper was cleared, traffic was given, and the chopper pilot acknowledged site of the jet. AT that point, the chopper pilot took over full responsibility and released by ATC, which is standard practice.
Has ATC been severely impacted by the DEI BS, and paying a price? Absolutely. I am sure we are going to hear a lot about that, and changes will be made. I am also sure that the media will try and protect the blame away from the woke lesbian, inexperienced Pilot, because she was a supporter of their agenda. However, they are in a tight spot, because in doing so, they will be pointing the finger at DEI hires of ATC.
The Pilot should have never been in that position, due to lack of experience. The only reason she was is because of her ties to the Biden Administration, which run deep. This entire situation blows for the Innocents that should have never died without DEI.
this post is great
Posted on 2/3/25 at 7:51 am to Stinger_1066
Yes. It gave conspiracy theorist something to go crazy over.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:05 am to llfshoals
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llfshoals
Holy hell shut the frick up woman.
As someone with an extensive aviation background your comments are making my brain hurt.
And reminder you’re arguing with someone who was ACTUALLY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER you fricking dolt.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:06 am to monsterballads
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this post is great
Yup absolutely nailed it. Should’ve ended the conversation with that.
But that moron lifshoals is still arguing with him.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:08 am to llfshoals
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Was the pilot “out of the lane” for lack of a better description? Yes. Whether that was pilot error, instructor error, I doubt we will ever know. Don’t discount there was a more experienced pilot in the bird as well. If the more experienced pilot was familiar with the rules and area I suspect “following the rules” has been ignored for a long time and the odds finally caught up with them.
Wow, there are no words.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:09 am to Narax
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Yes, but at a certain point in time she was at the Whitehouse, how long was she there?
Ralph Lauren got the medal of freedom Jan 4th 2025. So we know she was just there.
I was 100% sure this was intentional after watching the footage. After hearing this and seeing that photo with Biden I now think it was just complete incompetence.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:21 am to The Boat
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Not all veterans are the same.
Just curious. Are you a veteran?
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:25 am to I20goon
IM a numbers guy, so I'll go with the most plausible explanation until we know more.
The visceral reaction by the WH, followed by all the secrecy, social media scrubbing, etc... Then the revelation that she was an LGBT social justice champion and Biden loyalist. It all leads me to believe she was most likely promoted based on DEI factors. Maybe she hadn't flown in a long time. But I need to see a LOT more before I'll entertain the murder/suicide angle.
The visceral reaction by the WH, followed by all the secrecy, social media scrubbing, etc... Then the revelation that she was an LGBT social justice champion and Biden loyalist. It all leads me to believe she was most likely promoted based on DEI factors. Maybe she hadn't flown in a long time. But I need to see a LOT more before I'll entertain the murder/suicide angle.
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