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Did the framers anticipate what we are witnessing today?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:46 pm
We are still a young country. How well are the checks and balances working?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:48 pm to loogaroo
Absolutely they did.
It’s the 2nd amendment not the 22nd amendment.
It’s the 2nd amendment not the 22nd amendment.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:50 pm to loogaroo
Yes, and those checks and balances were removed. Career politicians were never supposed to be a thing. Identity politics were never supposed to be a thing. We were never supposed to be a “democracy” where every single 75 IQ moron in the entire country gets to vote and choose our leaders and policies. This country wasn’t designed to have foreign and monopolized media outlets dominating the news cycle 24/7. We were supposed to have as much firepower as the military to keep them in check.
They anticipated all of this, they put guidelines in place to avoid it, and the feel-gooder liberals have gradually undone all of their rational work in favor of “my feels”. It’s fricked
They anticipated all of this, they put guidelines in place to avoid it, and the feel-gooder liberals have gradually undone all of their rational work in favor of “my feels”. It’s fricked
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:50 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
Right on.
Also Republic vs mob rule Democracy.
Also Republic vs mob rule Democracy.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:50 pm to loogaroo
While they knew people would be stupid and corrupt politicians would try to take advantage of that stupidity, there’s no way they could have predicted the way social media magnifies that stupidity.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:50 pm to loogaroo
They did everything they could to limit power of the federal government, knowing its proclivity to grow and infringe on the people’s rights
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm to loogaroo
No or else they would have dictated the limit of justices to the Supreme Court and given term limits to Senators, Reps, and Justices.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm to loogaroo
quote:
How well are the checks and balances working?
Poorly when it comes to the courts.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:51 pm to loogaroo
No way the framers envisioned career politicians. No good government is designed to have politicians so engrained in government that they can become multi-millionaires and compound their wealth year after year by putting their interests above the people.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:52 pm to loogaroo
Yes and they would've Etch-a-Sketched the motherfricker before it got to this.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:53 pm to Tridentds
The framers had the provision that only land owners could vote. Have some skin in the game.
That was repealed. Needs to be brought back.
That was repealed. Needs to be brought back.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:54 pm to loogaroo
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
John Adams
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:54 pm to loogaroo
" A Republic. If you can keep it. " - Benjamin Franklin.
They knew of mob rule, and were hell bent on denying it happen here on a national scale. Worked, up until now.
They knew of mob rule, and were hell bent on denying it happen here on a national scale. Worked, up until now.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:58 pm to loogaroo
Yes, the framers anticipated this very thing. They thought that the checks and balances would last as long as the people of the country remained moral. They knew this democracy would eventually fall to factionalism. I expect they would be pleased and surprised at this country lasting 250 years.
Anyway, if you want to know more about this you can read the Federalist Papers. Hamilton, Jay and Madison discuss every facet of the government and other national institutions.
Anyway, if you want to know more about this you can read the Federalist Papers. Hamilton, Jay and Madison discuss every facet of the government and other national institutions.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:59 pm to loogaroo
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:02 pm to loogaroo
The framers constitution died in 1865.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:04 pm to loogaroo
Life expectancy in 1789 was 38 years, so they didn’t really foresee the need for term limits. They crafted every word to limit federal power and term limits would do that.
Hell, they purposely put the age to be President at 35 because they didn’t think their arse would live long enough to be a dictator.
Hell, they purposely put the age to be President at 35 because they didn’t think their arse would live long enough to be a dictator.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:12 pm to bbvdd
quote:Say what?
The framers had the provision that only land owners could vote. Have some skin in the game.
That was repealed. Needs to be brought back.
You think that the Constitution originally contained a property requisite for exercise of the franchise? Good Lord, the Constitution left that matter entirely to the States, and that did not change for almost a century with ratification of the 15A.
In 1789, only a handful of the 13 original States limited the franchise to property owners, and even THOSE States had a number of gaping-hole exceptions.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:15 pm to Redleg Guy
quote:VERY misleading statistic, because it includes childhood deaths (which were still VERY common). If a person survived to age eight or so, he had a really, really good chance of living well into his 50s or longer.
Life expectancy in 1789 was 38 years, so they didn’t really foresee the need for term limits.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 6:16 pm to loogaroo
I mean the founders thought "shall not be infringed" would be clear enough, they were wrong...
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