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Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:40 am to samson73103
quote:I'm right here on this!
In addition, the death penalty should be expanded and used as a punishment for sexual assault of children and aggravated rape.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:41 am to redneck hippie
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No government should have the power to put their own citizens to death.
F that. If someone murdered anyone in my family or did anything that warranted it, I’d gladly flip the switch for them.
Feel like too many ppl get off easily with life. We need to start putting more of these mf’s to death.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:44 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Remarkable how “thou shall not kill” is totally negotiable for christian conservatives when comes to the death penalty.
Not as remarkable as leftist whackos normalizing pedophilia and not being able to define what a woman is.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:44 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Remarkable how “thou shall not kill” is totally negotiable for christian conservatives when comes to the death penalty.
Remarkable certain groups get a few years or probation but a different group would be fried. You’re an idiot and don’t expect you to think critically here.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:44 am to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:commonly mistranslated. It's thou shall not murder.
thou shall not kill
The OT is quite friendly on exacting in kind justice.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:48 am to Displaced
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Please note that it used to be this way in Florida and only recently changed to require unanimity from the jury.
This is interesting.
I am a Ron desantis fan but I will disagree with him here.
I’m opposed to the death penalty in general. If it’s going to be in place then it should be the absolute highest of thresholds (unanimous)
With that said agreeing on 95% of issues is solid.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:50 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Remarkable how “thou shall not kill” is totally negotiable for christian conservatives when comes to the death penalty.
I am opposed to the death penalty but you are fooling yourself here. There is a clear distinction made between capital punishment for crimes in the law and unjust killing in the OT/Torah
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:54 am to Adam Banks
You understand that the jury verdict on guilt is already unanimous.
This is strictly on deciding life in prison vs Death penalty.
This is stemming from a jury verdict where 3 members lied about being willing to do the death penalty in voir dire. They refused even though death penalty was clearly the correct choice.
This is strictly on deciding life in prison vs Death penalty.
This is stemming from a jury verdict where 3 members lied about being willing to do the death penalty in voir dire. They refused even though death penalty was clearly the correct choice.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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You understand that the jury verdict on guilt is already unanimous. This is strictly on deciding life in prison vs Death penalty. This is stemming from a jury verdict where 3 members lied about being willing to do the death penalty in voir dire. They refused even though death penalty was clearly the correct choice.
Frankly I’d be the opposite. If the vast majority of the jury thinks you committed a crime worthy of death or life in prison it’s likely that society is better off with you behind bars.
I don’t feel good about you losing your life when not everyone is convinced you are innocent
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:05 pm to Zach
Hmmm. Probably not. The bar for us to sanction killing another American should be pretty high.
A solid "B" from the jury doesn't seem to me to pass that test.
I get people can get selected for a jury with no intention of letting the death penalty through but the bar should be high.
A solid "B" from the jury doesn't seem to me to pass that test.
I get people can get selected for a jury with no intention of letting the death penalty through but the bar should be high.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:06 pm to redneck hippie
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No government should have the power to put their own citizens to death.
OK, then we if we catch illegal aliens committing a felony we can execute them?
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:08 pm to samson73103
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I am pro death penalty but believe it should only be on the table if DNA evidence is available.
Lot of cameras out there. What if there are 2 eye witnesses plus a video of him committing the murder?
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:10 pm to Displaced
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commonly mistranslated. It's thou shall not murder.
Exactly. I learned about this in Catechism class when I was 14.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:31 pm to Zach
I am not opposed to someone dying for their crimes however I do not trust our government enough to let them pick and choose what citizens they can kill. IDGAF is 12 rando's decide that some guy is guilty because of the information the government Judge and the government prosecutor let the see and hear.
I don't see how you can believe in small government and support a Government sponsored death penalty.
I don't see how you can believe in small government and support a Government sponsored death penalty.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:43 pm to Zach
If someone I knew had their life on the line, I would want all 12 people to be absolutely convinced that they needed to die
This post was edited on 4/22/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:48 pm to armsdealer
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I don't see how you can believe in small government and support a Government sponsored death penalty.
Oh, it's easy. Small govt people (I'm small 'l' libertarian) believe in private property rights. Murder is the ultimate violation. The murderer should die for several reasons:
a. You can't kill anyone else.
b. It deters some other people from killing.
c. It makes us feel good.
The people who sit on juries don't work for the govt. Some D.A.s work for the govt but they're paid to release as many murderers as possible, not convict them.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:49 pm to momentoftruth87
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Especially these days. I don’t trust the judicial system
I agree. It's the only conservative position I don't hold. I'm against the death penalty, but not because I have a problem with putting murderers to death. It's because our government could frick up a bake sale, and should not be trusted to not fry an innocent person now and then.
Posted on 4/23/23 at 9:34 am to Zach
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What if there are 2 eye witnesses plus a video of him committing the murder?
Video maybe but eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable.
Posted on 4/23/23 at 9:51 am to Adam Banks
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I am a Ron desantis fan but I will disagree with him here.
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If the vast majority of the jury thinks you committed a crime worthy of death or life in prison it’s likely that society is better off with you behind bars.
quote:
There is a clear distinction made between capital punishment for crimes in the law and unjust killing in the OT/Torah
I can't believe it it actually looks like you're making some progress, you have a long way to go and you're a ronbot... Thanks for saying something that made sense and try to continue to progress in logical thinking
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