re: Desantis just beat trump in Western conservative summit straw poll

Give me Desantis over Trump for 2024. He’s a great candidate and I don’t want another old arse president

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sub white women is a rino rove fairy tale. They went overwhelmingly for Trump in a stolen election. Want Trump back now and DeSantis for 24. Trump may be too old in 24

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These suburban Republican voters exist.

For the second straight election, Trump underperformed the majority of down-ballot Republicans in the suburbs of nearly every state. These voters are Republican and Republican-leaning Independents that don't like Trump, which is why they've split tickets and allowed down-ballot Republicans to either outperform Trump state-wide or in their suburban districts.

In the Senate, Rubio/Portman/Isakson/McCain/Burr/Johnson/Ayotte all received more votes than Trump did in their respective states in 2016. Toomey outperformed Trump in the Philly suburbs. In 2020, Cornyn/Gardner/Tillis did better than Trump in the biggest counties. Cornyn received over 100K more votes than Trump did in just the 10 largest counties in TX alone. David Perdue received over 17K more votes than Trump in Cobb//DeKalb/Fulton/Gwinnett.

There were approximately 5.5 and 5 million voters who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn't vote for Trump, in 2016 and 2020, respectively.

In WI, there were approximately 78K voters who voted for at least 1 Republican but didn't vote for Trump. In GA that number was between 120-130K. In AZ it was between 45-50K. In MI and PA it was over 150K. In a state he won, like TX, it was approximately 320K.

Considering that DeSantis does better than Trump with pretty much every demographic, especially women and suburban voters, you'll see a large swing in % and/or raw votes in the suburbs back to him in 2024, should he get the GOP nomination. In short, he won't leave anywhere close to as many votes out there as Trump did, particularly in the suburbs.

There are plenty of votes that ARE there. We just need someone who can appeal to these voters. Given the data that we have, DeSantis is that guy. If we want to fricking win, DeSantis is our guy. Everyone else can frick off and stay home.

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Desantis has most of the strong points of trump and few of the weaknesses. He's a great candidate

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This.

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In WI, there were approximately 78K voters who voted for at least 1 Republican but didn't vote for Trump. In GA that number was between 120-130K. In AZ it was between 45-50K. In MI and PA it was over 150K.

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Lol. Such a queer.

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Desantis has most of the strong points of trump and few of the weaknesses. He's a great candidate

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Trump broke new ground for the weak, DC swamp Republicans; he showed both the need and the way that if they would embrace, patriotic America would support them. He forced the Dems to show themselves as the wholly corrupt political machine that they have long been...while purporting to serve Constitutional Principle (which they despise irl).

DeSantis is a quick study; he picked it up quicker than most, as he was uniquely positioned in Florida to run with it.

I would wager that if Trump and DeSantis sat and talked about patriotic strategy going forward, Trump would not insist that he be the Candidate in '24...only that he got due credit for the amazing policy and political feats which he pulled off, under a barrage of criminal obstruction and corruption of the which this Nation has never seen.

One thing is for sure, there is NO going back to the political comity of the past; that ship has sailed. Whomever is the POTUS - of either Party - is going to be forced to pull the trigger, against oppositional forces within our Borders, of the which has never been the case in the history of our Nation. Pressure is building by the day. Whomever takes that Job, had damn well better be hated by half the populous, ready to make big time decisions, and willing to bear serious Karma.

The old days are gone.

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The GOP is useless, but they’re not stupid. 

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Yes they are.

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I don’t think there are many if any conservatives on here who would be disappointed in DeSantis, but it would be sweet to see Trump win it to watch the leftists do their Linda Blair impressions.

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100% true

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Republicans can't win the Presidency. There are too many states that are about to change from red to blue. Texas and North Carolina are changing rapidly. There are no blue states that will flip. No matter how good DeSantis may be, the Dems have a lock on the Presidency.

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Totally false that Republicans can't win the Presidency. Trump won in 2016. Additionally, on a precinct-by-precinct basis, there were approximately 5 million voters who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn't vote for Trump. The votes are there, we just need a better messenger who can appeal to these voters, who typically vote Republican.

Ohio and Iowa are no longer swing states. Those are now safe R states.

Florida is lean-R. Trump won FL by approximately 371K votes and made major gains with hispanic and cuban voters in south Florida. He got 46% of the vote in Miami-Dade County, which is incredible for a Republican. 40% is usually the number that Republicans shoot for in Miami-Dade and Trump smashed that. Oh, and you know what else? There were over 100K voters in FL who voted for at least 1 down-ballot R but didn't vote for Trump. Those are voters who will be voting for DeSantis when he gets the nomination. And unlike states like TX and AZ, northerners who moved to FL last year actually smartened up and voted Republican. DeSantis mentioned on Ben Shapiro's show that he met so many northerners who just moved there that voted for Trump and down-ballot R's because they were tired of their former Governors locking everything down and killing businesses.

Let's take a look at the PVI of other states based on the most recent election that are still Republican-leaning


Arizona: R+4.15
Georgia: R+4.22
Michigan: R+1.67
Nevada: R+2.06
North Carolina: R+5.79
Pennsylvania: R+3.28
Texas: R+10.03
Wisconsin: R+3.82


Here are states that are slightly trending R:

Minnesota: D+2.67
New Mexico: D+6.29

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it would be sweet to see Trump win it to watch the leftists do their Linda Blair impressions.

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I would fap 24/7 for 4 years straight if that was to happen.

As much as I like Ron we need trump to set up 8 years of Ron