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Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You're filling in gaps with biased assumptions.
That was easy.
Name the assumptions.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:56 am to Taketts
Who will the GOPe anoint now?
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
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Name the assumptions.
Just swap out "Assertions" from your post and you're essentially there.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:58 am to GumboPot
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Name the assumptions.
Given the poster I am going to guess you assume John Kasich is not a geopolitical genius.
(Remember who you are talking to.)
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:59 am to rhar61
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SimpDVTiger
What did you get banned over?
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:09 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Just swap out "Assertions" from your post and you're essentially there.
Assertion 1: Ron is open to supplying Ukraine/Zelensky with weapons as long as the weapons maintain the Russia/Ukraine war within its borders.
Supporting evidence from Ron:
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The U.S. should not provide assistance that could require the deployment of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive operations beyond its borders.
Assertion 2: Ron is okay with funding Ukraine in the war as long as we have a clear objective to do so.
Supporting evidence from Ron:
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So I think it would behoove them to identify what is the strategic objective that they're trying to achieve, but just saying it's an open-ended blank check, that is not acceptable.
Look you may agree or disagree with Ron's positions on Ukraine. They are what they are. The funny thing is just because I'm calling them out you are assuming I disagree with them. I actually don't. My main concern with those positions at this point in the war is mission creep.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
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GumboBro
Thank you for confirming that you're simply making some assumptions.
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The funny thing is just because I'm calling them out you are assuming I disagree with them.
That isn't what I'm doing at all.
See, this is what happens when you fill in gaps as you want things to be.
I'm here highlighting why you're doing it. Whether you agree or disagree with his statements is completely irrelevant to me.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:19 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Thank you for confirming that you're simply making some assumptions.
Don't play the game of conflating my assumption about you thinking that I disagree with Ron's positions on Ukraine with you not naming the assumptions you accuse me of in the two assertions.
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That isn't what I'm doing at all.
See, this is what happens when you fill in gaps as you want things to be.
I'm here highlighting why you're doing it. Whether you agree or disagree with his statements is completely irrelevant to me.
This is called losing the argument. You can't focus on the two assertions and you focus on everything but that.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:22 am to GumboPot
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you not naming the assumptions you accuse me of
I did name them. You confirmed that they were merely assumptions. Your assertions do not match what DeSantis said.
It's a simple diff.
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This is called losing the argument.
No, that argument is done. I don't even care if you admit you were wrong or not, because that isn't my main point.
My point is that you're inserting bias into what DeSantis said, and we both know why. You asked "why" you would spin it. The answer is the same as it's been since you were told to go after DeSantis.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:30 am to TomShelby
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Sounds like hes flip flopping like he did with the Vax
Ron is weak and wishy washy.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I did name them.
Quote them then.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:35 am to GumboPot
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No, that argument is done.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:39 am to GhostOfFreedom
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I briefly listened to Mark Levin last night. I had to turn him off when he went on a tirade about not being a war monger
I still remember the day(s) Mark Levin used to go on tirades about Trump. Levin is a warmongering bitch.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:04 am to Taketts
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This is incredibly disappointing of Desantis.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:33 am to NC_Tigah
All the US would have to do is say, Ukraine will never be part of NATO that could threaten Russia’s sovereignty. Now let’s get a peace deal and Russia get out.
War Over.
So ask yourself, why the frick this isnt happening? Why do we care if Ukraine is part of NATO?
All that is happening now, we’re pissing money away and innocent people are dying. Nobody is trying to stop this shite
War Over.
So ask yourself, why the frick this isnt happening? Why do we care if Ukraine is part of NATO?
All that is happening now, we’re pissing money away and innocent people are dying. Nobody is trying to stop this shite
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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My point is that you're inserting bias into what DeSantis said, and we both know why. You asked "why" you would spin it. The answer is the same as it's been since you were told to go after DeSantis.
But don't worry, he's voting for him if given the opportunity in 2028
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:41 am to BugAC
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Unless you are a leftist, then it's a "cover up your ukrainian corruption" problem.
This is roughly the level of analysis I expect of the progs. Congrats.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:42 am to GnashRebel
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and has expressly stated a desire to incorporate parts of them into it it.
Imagine if the United States lost Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Maine, and Vermont… wouldn’t we want to get them back?
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:44 am to GumboPot
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Assertion 1: Ron is open to supplying Ukraine/Zelensky with weapons as long as the weapons maintain the Russia/Ukraine war within its borders.
Again, you refuse to address Ron's actual statements. Why are you being a hack?
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"They have effectively a blank-check policy with no clear, strategic objective identified, and these things can escalate, and I don't think it's in our interests to be getting into a proxy war with China, getting involved over things like the borderlands or over Crimea," DeSantis said.
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Assertion 2: Ron is okay with funding Ukraine in the war as long as we have a clear objective to do so.
You do know that Trump sent weapons to Ukraine, right? I've yet to see your thread on that.
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