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re: Dems offer bill to require presidents to release tax returns

Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:34 pm to
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And not just incomes but debts. Debt is leverage. For example, in 2014 Eric Trump told a golf reporter that the Trump organization get "all the financing we need from Russia" when the American credit markets got tight.


So the special counsel is now incompetent?
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:35 pm to
How about full disclosure regarding the names of Congress men who settled sexual harassment cases.





Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Sources of income are not shown on Form 1040, the main tax return form.
So you think the bill requires Trump to turn over his 1040?
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:38 pm to
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So the special counsel is now incompetent?


No.

But wouldn't you have liked to avoid a criminal investigation of the president? Trump signed a letter of intent to take out hundreds of millions from a sanctioned Russian state bank during the campaign and lied about Russian connections repeatedly. Simply trusting candidates and the IRS is insufficient.

If we had a law like this we wouldn't have a Russian investigation.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:41 pm to
What exactly is the end game here. Trump gets elected and turns over tax returns, then what?
Posted by Ten Bears
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:42 pm to
Yep..I'm sure it says "interest on all that financing we needed from Russia" on his schedule A
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:43 pm to
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But wouldn't you have liked to avoid a criminal investigation of the president?


You think tax returns would have stopped it? You serious?!?

Would we not be in a possible criminal investigation with Clinton over Uranium One and possible quid pro quo with Saudi Arabia over using her office for influencing approval of a weapons deal with the Saudis in exchange for “donations” to a foundation she partially owns?

If not.... why not? Because it’s not on her tax returns?
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:43 pm to
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what's unfair about a law that requires presidents and opposing party nominees to release their taxes?


What's fair about it? You want it done, you provide justification in doing so. Libs love to demand things and then have the person they're against justify why they shouldn't do it.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Yep..I'm sure it says "interest on all that financing we needed from Russia" on his schedule A


It actually says, Russian interest amount = $ Orange man bad
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:48 pm to
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. Simply trusting candidates and the IRS is insufficient


So we need to adopt a tax system that eliminates an incompetent IRS. Finally. Some agreement.

So we can’t trust experienced tax enforcement at the IRS and cannot trust the SC to prove what you allude to. So we give the documents over to Adam Schiff for a competent resolution? Are you listening to yourself?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:49 pm to
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What exactly is the end game here. Trump gets elected and turns over tax returns, then what?


The endgame is getting candidates to disclose conflicts of interest prior to the election so we have relatively unconflicted people elected. No, it doesn't solve all problems, for example in the case of two corrupt nominees, but it informs the public to be able to select the lesser of evils in that case.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Americans have a right to know if their President is a crook


How's that Obama investigation going?
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9910 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:51 pm to
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So we need to adopt a tax system that eliminates an incompetent IRS. Finally. Some agreement.

So we can’t trust experienced tax enforcement at the IRS and cannot trust the SC to prove what you allude to. So we give the documents over to Adam Schiff for a competent resolution? Are you listening to yourself?


No, you give it to the public, dude. It's a requirement for public release of financial information.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:55 pm to
what a bunch of hooey....so...you think voters are going to change their vote because a candidate, who hasn't been prosecuted for anything illegal with respect to his/her taxes, has some phony "conflict of interest" revealed on his tax return?


People are just pissed because 1) it's Trump and he teabagged the media 2) He bucked "tradition"


If people really cared, they wouldn't have elected Clinton for taking a charitable deduction for used underwear...
Posted by Janky
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35957 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:56 pm to
Well, this isn't

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The endgame is getting candidates to disclose conflicts of interest prior to the election so we have relatively unconflicted people elected. No, it doesn't solve all problems, for example in the case of two corrupt nominees, but it informs the public to be able to select the lesser of evils in that case.



what this says

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Dems offer bill to require presidents to release tax returns


So, lets say we go by your idea and use it for candidates. What would have happened when Trump won anyway, because no one really gives a frick about tax returns except you loons?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6860 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:56 pm to
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No, you give it to the public, dude. It's a requirement for public release of financial information.


How many people in the general population, who aren't CPA's, would be able to understand that kind of tax return?
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:57 pm to
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How many people in the general population, who aren't CPA's, would be able to understand that kind of tax return?



See my comment earlier about needing the MSM to interpret the returns for the masses.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3323 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 1:59 pm to
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How many people in the general population, who aren't CPA's, would be able to understand that kind of tax return?


There would be lots of info to be gleened, however, not the type of info that libs want...for that, they would want a balance sheet or personal financial statement
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 2:00 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:00 pm to
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The endgame is getting candidates to disclose conflicts of interest prior to the election so we have relatively unconflicted people elected


How exactly would you see a conflict of interest on a tax return. Have you ever done one?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6860 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:01 pm to
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See my comment earlier about needing the MSM to interpret the returns for the masses.




Exactly, CNN would have their panel full of lib CPA's and Fox would have their's full of conservatives. And what good would it do?
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