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Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:52 pm to Lsut81
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How can they prove who leaked his name to the press?
Better just arrest all of them to be safe.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:52 pm to Lsut81
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No way a reporter is going to say "Biden" told me...
I’m betting Comey...safe bet
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:53 pm to SUB
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Can someone explain how this could amount to anything if they can't find any further evidence on who leaked the info on Flynn?
Thats my question... No doubt, nefarious shite was going on.
But unless there is a paper trail showing Biden's office told this reporter the name, its all circumstantial.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:54 pm to Bunyan
We all know the who will take the fall for this and who will get off clean.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:54 pm to Lsut81
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No way a reporter is going to say "Biden" told me...
you don't think they can make some crappy 2nd rate reporter squeel?
they made 30 year war veteran general plead guilty to crime that never happened
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:54 pm to Lsut81
No one is going to go to jail but Trump is going to blast this through a microphone and take Biden out with a death by 1000 paper cuts.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to Choctaw
Here's an article that talks about unmasking. LINK
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Who can 'unmask?'
If a national security official who receives an intelligence report feels like he or she needs to know the identity of a U.S. person in an intelligence report, that official can make a request to "unmask."
The procedures for doing so are less well understood than the minimization process, but about 20 officials at the National Security Agency have the authority to approve an unmasking, NSA Director Michael Rogers told the House Intelligence Committee last month.
Especially sensitive requests would come to his attention personally. "I'm the senior-most of the 20 individuals. Requests will be pushed to my level, say 'Hey, sir, we just want to make sure that you're comfortable with this,'" he said.
Rogers said those officials all have specific training. "There are specific controls put in place in terms of our ability to disseminate information out of the databases associated with U.S. persons," he said.
Other intelligence agencies — including the CIA, FBI and the National Counterterrorism Center — have their own procedures for minimization and unmasking.
Susan Rice's unmasking requests
In an interview with MSNBC Tuesday, Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice denied making requests to unmask the names of Trump associates for political purposes. She described the process as routine, but declined to say specifically how often she made requests or for what purposes.
"There were occasions when I would receive a report in which a U.S. person was referred to. Name not provided, just a U.S. person," she said. "And sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information, as to who the U.S. official was.
"So when that occurred, what I would do, or what any official would do, is to ask their briefer whether the intelligence community would go through its process — and there's a long-standing, established process — to decide whether that information as to who the identity of the U.S. person was could be provided to me. So they'd take that question back, they'd put it through a process, and the intelligence community made the determination as to whether or not the identity of that American individual could be provided to me."
'Unmasking' as protection
Rice gave a hypothetical example of foreign agents attempting to buy bomb-making materials from a U.S. citizen. "Is this some kook sitting in his living room communicating via the internet, offering to sell something he doesn't have? Or is it a serious person or company or entity with the ability to provide that technology perhaps to an adversary? That would be an example of a case where knowing who the U.S. person was, was necessary to assess the information."
But former CIA director John McLaughlin says the debate over unmasking has often ignored more benign reasons for identifying citizens whose name come up in foreign intelligence.
"Sometimes you unmask the name in order to protect an American citizen," McLaughlin told MSNBC Tuesday. He used the hypothetical example of a senator who needs to know that the foreign official he's planning to meet with is actually a spy. "You need to know who you were talking to, just for your protection and information."
Unmasking is not leaking
When the name of a U.S. person is unmasked, that information is provided only to the intelligence official who requested that unmasking, Rice said Tuesday. "There's no equivalence between so-called unmasking and leaking," she said.
Of course, the recipient of unmasked information could then illegally disclose it through a leak.
Rice denied leaking. "I leaked nothing to nobody, and never had and never would," she said.
Unmasking is not a crime
The process for unmasking vary from agency to agency and case by case depending on how the information was collected. But the exact procedures are not publicly known and may be classified.
“None of this unmasking procedure is in law. It's in procedure. Executive branch procedure," said Carrie Cordero, a national security lawyer who worked on surveillance issues in the Justice Department in the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations.
“What I think I’m seeing as the biggest fallacy being reported, or being 'pundited,' is that if there was some kind of improper unmasking, that it's illegal. And that’s wrong,” she said.
If it turns out that procedures weren't followed, they would most likely be subject to administrative discipline, Cordero said.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to bwallcubfan
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still nothing on CNN dot com
They will only cover it in a dismissive fashion. they don't see anything wrong with it.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to PaperTiger
I understand it doesnt demonstrate who leaked the info.
But Biden had absolutely no business needing to know who the person was that had their calls picked up.
WTF was he thinking?
But Biden had absolutely no business needing to know who the person was that had their calls picked up.
WTF was he thinking?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to Bunyan
Biden has been saying he had no knowledge of this...
How important is honesty in candidates again limp wrists??
We know that sexual harassment isn’t anymore. Should this not matter anymore either?
How important is honesty in candidates again limp wrists??
We know that sexual harassment isn’t anymore. Should this not matter anymore either?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
How have I not seen this before??
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to Possumslayer
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I’m betting Comey...safe bet
thinking the same.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:55 pm to bwallcubfan
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still nothing on CNN dot com
They are busy trying to justify Biden’s unmasking..
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:56 pm to Choctaw
Why would Biden need to know who was communicating with a Russian?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:57 pm to Bunyan
" I know nothing about the unmasking of Michael Flynn "
Joe Biden
Joe Biden
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:58 pm to Bunyan
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Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report and the unmasking was approved through NSA’s standard process, which includes a review of the justification for the request.
What’s the problem?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 1:58 pm to OchoDedos
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" I know nothing about the unmasking of Michael Flynn "
Joe Biden
This is probably factually true at this point in his life.
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