re: DC homeowner fatally shoots 13-year-old boy breaking into cars

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in LA there is one prison that is self-sufficient. in 99.9% of the cities around this country, this is simply not available. thus, again, not the real world.

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We are discussing felonies. With rare exceptions, felons go to prison, not city jails.

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in 99.9% of the cities around this country, this is simply not available.

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Prison labor isn’t utilized for many activities because of lobbying. Fact.

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"philosophically" = not the real world.

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Further, inarguable proof that he is a flaming Liberal.

We want solutions, he wants to have tea so he can make sure everyone sees his pinky is properly raised, sit around and talk these problems to DEATH while actually doing NOTHING about those problems.

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You know, some people are stealing and they’re making a big deal out of it. Oh, they’re stealing 20 pair of jeans or they’re stealing television sets. Who cares? They’re not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they’re so poor they’ve never touched anything in their lives. Let them touch those things for once. - Celine Dion

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This is the mentality of the liberal. They are vacuous morons, hell bent on virtue signaling so hard with other people's property.

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You can’t shoot people you think are breaking into your car.

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I actually can.

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In response, I ask you whether utilitarianism should be the only consideration in examining these situations. In other words, should we not first answer the philosophical questions, and then work out the pragmatic solutions?

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That's the problem, those questions were asked and the answers acted on and the result is that crime is rising because the answer was to empathize more with the criminal. That empathy is expressed through lowering sentences, Defund The Police, "social justice equity", etc.

The news gal's response is a direct result of that misplaced empathy. Her knee-jerk response is to condemn the killing as the tragedy (and that's where it ends) rather than asking what sort of home life this kid (and his companions) have which allows such an idea (to steal cars) to be created in the first place (much less grow to the point of acting on it), thus placing the onus on the actual victim (the vehicle owner). Not only did this guy have to deal with someone (probably not the first time) trying to steal something he's worked hard to earn, he now has to deal with being blamed for defending his property instead of just letting the criminal do what he wants.

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The only point of contention is whether killing a criminal for theft is an appropriate penalty.

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Your question is incredibly short-sighted in its generality.

First, your question assumes all theft is the same. Stealing a candy bar is the same as stealing someone's car is the same as stealing someone's life savings is the same as stealing someone's identity, etc.

Second, your question necessitates everyone adopts placing the same value on things that you do.

Third, it ignores the reality that cops can't be everywhere at every time. This means it ignores that the individual is actually the first line of defense against crime (it's okay though, the government wants everyone to ignore this and simply rely on government to protect them from everything). There's a strain of this philosophy which believes that such defensive actions by non-police citizens somehow increases crime.

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There was an interaction between a juvenile male and the male resident

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Perhaps, you missed this part of the article.

Perhaps, the deceased fine young man did more than just steal cars that night.

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Perhaps, the deceased fine young man did more than just steal cars that night.

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I PROMISE you that piece of shite was up to more mischief.

Dollars to donuts when confronted, this idiot threatened the homeowner.

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The Trust-Fund Babies on this board don't understand the concept of "stuff". The people who were raised with a silver-spoon in their mouths who are arguing that "stuff" isn't worth a life have never had to work for "stuff", their rich parents or privilege have seen to that.

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This is incorrect. They understand perfectly the value of their stuff. They build walls and hire guards and put up cameras to protect it. But they don't get why you think you deserve your stuff.

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Still waiting for a reference to the “civilized” society

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Anyone that justifies the sexual indocrination of children shouldn't be putting his jaw out on being the judge of what is "civilized" or not.