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re: Data center land grab in Jawja
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:24 pm to captainFid
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:24 pm to captainFid
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I don't understand Jawja, at all -- It's like they want to become little-left-coast-California now.
Because they are allowing data centers to be built? WTF is going on here?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:47 pm to Penrod
quote:The title of the thread suggests that land is being taken to build a data center.
Because they are allowing data centers to be built? WTF is going on here?
That is NOT what happened.
Georgia Power is using its eminent domain power to increase its powerline easements. The powerlines in question go to a data center.
This same thing could have happened in any state in the country.
In fact, Georgia amended its constitution after Kelo to restrict eminent domain specifically to "public use," making it harder for private, for-profit entities to acquire land.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:50 pm to Penrod
There is supposed to be a Data center coming to our area. The end buyer who has yet to be named but known by the county, said they were covering ALL cost to upgrade infrastructure. They’re going to come in and put 175 million in the county coffers. Schools system locally a would get a 20% increase to their operating budget.
It would be a closed loop cooling system so 60k gal of water needed. Nothing outrageous as other mills in the area use 3x as much. They would hire a minimum of 85 employees and the county would receive 2 million in tax monthly. They are covering all road construction cost to widen the roads leading to the facility. They are also going to be using natural gas to power the facility and have electricity through Alabama Power as a back up. They assured no one’s power bill would increase, and I believe the state of Alabama has a bill that covers this topic that the power bills for customers cannot increase due to these data centers. This is all stated in the contract.
This county can’t even keep its jail in compliance and has to carry inmates to neighboring facilities. We are always under a “boil water” notice. Failing school system every year. They can’t hardly fund kids sports. The data center they would float all expenses for youth projects. Broke isn’t the word for his county.
Data center said the county could use a portion of the 175 million, for water/sewer line upgrades, or whatever they want to use it for. It’s theirs ti spend how they choose. That’s just the up front $.
They will also be working closely with the local colleges to offer computer science degrees and hire local students who receive those degrees.
I see it as nothing but a win/win. We will NEVER get another opportunity for this kind of tax revenue for this broke arse county if they refuse this project. 2 million dollar check in the mail every month would be like hitting the lottery here.
It’ll be located on 1200 acres in the middle of nowhere. The nearest home would be 1/2 maybe? And that’s like 2 homes. Extremely rural countryside other than that. Bring it on!
It would be a closed loop cooling system so 60k gal of water needed. Nothing outrageous as other mills in the area use 3x as much. They would hire a minimum of 85 employees and the county would receive 2 million in tax monthly. They are covering all road construction cost to widen the roads leading to the facility. They are also going to be using natural gas to power the facility and have electricity through Alabama Power as a back up. They assured no one’s power bill would increase, and I believe the state of Alabama has a bill that covers this topic that the power bills for customers cannot increase due to these data centers. This is all stated in the contract.
This county can’t even keep its jail in compliance and has to carry inmates to neighboring facilities. We are always under a “boil water” notice. Failing school system every year. They can’t hardly fund kids sports. The data center they would float all expenses for youth projects. Broke isn’t the word for his county.
Data center said the county could use a portion of the 175 million, for water/sewer line upgrades, or whatever they want to use it for. It’s theirs ti spend how they choose. That’s just the up front $.
They will also be working closely with the local colleges to offer computer science degrees and hire local students who receive those degrees.
I see it as nothing but a win/win. We will NEVER get another opportunity for this kind of tax revenue for this broke arse county if they refuse this project. 2 million dollar check in the mail every month would be like hitting the lottery here.
It’ll be located on 1200 acres in the middle of nowhere. The nearest home would be 1/2 maybe? And that’s like 2 homes. Extremely rural countryside other than that. Bring it on!
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:59 pm to Penrod
EVERYONE needs to be against these data centers.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:01 pm to HubbaBubba
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My in-laws lost 25+ acres of land to imminent domain to Uncle Sam's Corp of Engineers to "improve the habitat of the brown trout in the Provo River."
was that land in the water? WTF?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:52 pm to Salviati
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In fact, Georgia amended its constitution after Kelo to restrict eminent domain specifically to "public use," making it harder for private, for-profit entities to acquire land.
Meanwhile, Louisiana has expanded it's eminent domain to encompass "public interest". (Looking at you CO2 pipelines).
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:57 pm to Crimson Wraith
People here will call you a libtard if you oppose having your house torn down to build a data center
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:09 pm to Crimson Wraith
There have been over 150 pads at a minimum size of 250k sf either built or currently under construction between Atlanta and Macon over the last 5 years. I just talked to a GC VP 20 minutes ago about 2 new sites. Hampton and. College Park. Hampton location to start in Jan 27 and CP to start November 26.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:57 pm to wdhalgren
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Also, AI may help develop technologies that lower the cost of producing electricity.
Savings that will not be passed on to the taxpayer.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:03 pm to Crimson Wraith
A buddy of mine in the Dallas area told me that an area south of them had a vote on a new data center last night. Red Oak I believe. They had a city council meeting vote last night, and a bunch of residents were there, and after all said they didn’t want it they voted 4-1 for it. Apparently it was in the works for years, and people just found out about.
And even a tax abatement was given. At this point I don’t think those are needed. They should just be happy with getting approval.
And even a tax abatement was given. At this point I don’t think those are needed. They should just be happy with getting approval.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:07 pm to VoxDawg
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It would be inconvenient to postpone the primaries when early voting has begun, but not impossible
That would need to be the Secretary of State, not governor, that makes that decision. And he would need a reason that would stand up in court (state of emergency, court order to redraw the districts, a set of redrawn districts that had been struck down previously by a court).
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:09 pm to Crimson Wraith
The issue is water.
Data centers are becoming a growing water-use concern in many communities. These facilities rely on cooling systems that use millions of gallons of water a day — sometimes as much as a small town.
As AI expands, that demand is rising fast. The challenge is that this can strain local water supplies, especially in areas already dealing with drought or aging infrastructure.
Cities are now trying to balance the economic benefits of data centers with the need to protect water resources and ensure residents aren’t competing with server farms for the same supply.
Article On The Issue
Data centers are becoming a growing water-use concern in many communities. These facilities rely on cooling systems that use millions of gallons of water a day — sometimes as much as a small town.
As AI expands, that demand is rising fast. The challenge is that this can strain local water supplies, especially in areas already dealing with drought or aging infrastructure.
Cities are now trying to balance the economic benefits of data centers with the need to protect water resources and ensure residents aren’t competing with server farms for the same supply.
Article On The Issue
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:10 pm to PJinAtl
First Georgia steals an election,
Then Georgia steals land
Seems like the commies are in control in Georgia.
Then Georgia steals land
Seems like the commies are in control in Georgia.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:43 pm to Judnnc
No. They own land on both sides, and the river used to be more straight, but the corp and Utah Game & Wildlife wanted to make the river meander with lots of curves like this:
The river ran like the top two lines through their property and now is like the bottom two through their land and others, so they needed land on each side of the river to make it like that.
The river ran like the top two lines through their property and now is like the bottom two through their land and others, so they needed land on each side of the river to make it like that.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:48 pm to PJinAtl
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That would need to be the Secretary of State, not governor, that makes that decision.
Incorrect. Stop listening to bloviating jackasses like Erick Erickson and watch your worries melt away. The process can only be initiated by the Governor and must be via special session of the General Assembly.
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he would need a reason that would stand up in court
The SCOTUS ruling in the Callais decision is absolutely a reason that would stand up in court. The redrawing of districts by racial makeup was just deemed unconstitutional.
ETA from Grok:
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**The primary and most practical first step is for Governor Brian Kemp (or a future governor) to issue a proclamation calling the Georgia General Assembly into a special session specifically for redistricting.**
### Governor-Called Special Session (Standard and Most Likely Path)
- Under the Georgia Constitution (Art. V, § II, ¶ VII), the Governor has the authority to convene the General Assembly in special session by proclamation. He can specify (and limit) the subjects to be considered — in this case, redistricting/reapportionment of congressional and/or state legislative districts.
- **Potential initiation**:
1. Republican legislative leaders, party officials, or candidates publicly call for the Governor to act (this has already happened post-*Callais*, with figures like party chair Josh McKoon, some gubernatorial candidates, and senators urging a session).
2. The Governor’s office analyzes the legal/political implications and decides.
3. If he proceeds, he issues a formal proclamation setting the date, location, and agenda (redistricting bills only).
4. The legislature convenes, reapportionment committees (House and Senate) hold hearings/drafting sessions, bills are introduced and passed by simple majorities, and the Governor signs (or vetoes) them.
- Special sessions are limited to 40 days unless extended. Only matters in the proclamation can be addressed.
As of early May 2026, Governor Kemp has stated he will **not** call a special session to redraw maps for the 2026 elections (early voting concerns), but has left open changes for the 2028 cycle.
### Legislative Self-Convocation (Rare, High Threshold)
- If 3/5 of the members of **each** chamber (House and Senate) certify in writing to the Governor (with a copy to the Secretary of State) that an emergency exists, the Governor **must** call the session.
- If he fails to do so within 3 days (excluding Sundays), the General Assembly can convene itself.
- This is very difficult in practice: It requires broad bipartisan (or at least cross-faction) support, which is unlikely for a partisan redistricting push. Republicans hold majorities but not necessarily the supermajority needed without Democratic votes.
### Other Practical/Preceding Steps
- **Public and internal advocacy**: Lawmakers, party leaders, interest groups, or even private citizens lobby the Governor’s office. Pre-drafting of map proposals by legislative staff or consultants can occur informally.
- **Reapportionment committees**: These can begin preliminary work (data analysis, public input planning) even without a formal session, though actual map adoption requires a convened legislature.
- **Coordination with ongoing litigation**: Any new maps would need to navigate existing court cases and the post-*Callais* legal environment.
In summary, **the ball is almost entirely in the Governor’s court** for near-term action. Without his proclamation, redistricting is effectively stalled until the next regular session (January 2027) or a successful 3/5 legislative petition (improbable). For the latest, monitor the Governor’s office, Georgia General Assembly site (legis.ga.gov), or nonpartisan trackers.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:48 pm to Nole Man
quote:
The issue is water.
Data centers are becoming a growing water-use concern in many communities. These facilities rely on cooling systems that use millions of gallons of water a day — sometimes as much as a small town.
As AI expands, that demand is rising fast. The challenge is that this can strain local water supplies, especially in areas already dealing with drought or aging infrastructure.
Cities are now trying to balance the economic benefits of data centers with the need to protect water resources and ensure residents aren’t competing with server farms for the same supply.
The water is returned.
Data centers permitted after 2024 use closed loop water systems (like a radiator).
The water issue is a bullshite issue.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:52 pm to Crimson Wraith
How many data centers are enough?
What’s the end game?
How will we know it’s saturated and no more are needed ?
What’s the end game?
How will we know it’s saturated and no more are needed ?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
Some of you drive on roads everyday that used to be private property.
Obviously it's not a nice thing. But as long as they give just compensation I'm not sure what else you want.
Obviously it's not a nice thing. But as long as they give just compensation I'm not sure what else you want.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:56 pm to Crimson Wraith
These are not data centers. These are surveillance centers using Al that will eventually be tracking your every move.
They’re taking a respectable term “data centers” to hide the truth. I work in data centers, date centers are great. These are completely different. Some of them are 20 square miles for 1 building. Some bigger.
Every state is getting at least one, and the fools in local government are welcoming them and giving tax breaks.
They’re taking a respectable term “data centers” to hide the truth. I work in data centers, date centers are great. These are completely different. Some of them are 20 square miles for 1 building. Some bigger.
Every state is getting at least one, and the fools in local government are welcoming them and giving tax breaks.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:09 pm to meansonny
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The water is returned.
Data centers permitted after 2024 use closed loop water systems (like a radiator).
The water issue is a bullshite issue.
I get that newer data centers are shifting to closed-loop cooling, and that’s definitely better than the older open-loop systems. But closed-loop doesn’t mean the water is fully returned. These systems still lose water every day through evaporation and maintenance, so they have to keep pulling in fresh water.
And most existing data centers were built before the 2024 standards, so they still use high-consumption evaporative cooling. That’s why communities are raising concerns — not because no water is returned, but because the scale of the losses can still strain local supplies, especially in hot or drought-prone areas.
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