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re: Data center land grab in Jawja
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:25 am to wadewilson
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:25 am to wadewilson
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Which could also be misinformation to squash any dissent over proposed data centers
That can’t be true you liberal Communist!
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:28 am to captainFid
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I don't understand Jawja, at all -- It's like they want to become little-left-coast-California now.
because of a data center?
What are your thoughts about Nebius constructing a massive facility on Lakeshore?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:39 am to captainFid
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I don't understand Jawja
The effects of an anglo-majority having evaporated, and the political windfall that has subsequently occurred.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:42 am to TigerAxeOK
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The effects of an anglo-majority having evaporated, and the political windfall that has subsequently occurred.
More like the effects of Fortune 500 companies relocating to Atlanta and the surrounding metro areas and hiring people from the northeast and west coast. This has been going on since the mid 80's it has just now taken total control. Its rare I meet anyone from metro Atlanta anymore. They are all transplants.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:55 am to wdhalgren
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It's not a battle we can afford to lose, IMO.
If your energy bills skyrocket and you don't have fresh water anymore, are you really gonna give a frick about AI?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:58 am to VoxDawg
When has China ever been a player in technology or ingenuity?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:02 pm to wadewilson
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If your energy bills skyrocket and you don't have fresh water anymore, are you really gonna give a frick about AI?
I'm not aware of how much AI development will impact energy costs and water, but it may also bring advances that could help with those problems. I do believe that AI may be the single most important factor in national security going forward. I think it's extremely important that we not fall behind.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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What are your thoughts about Nebius constructing a massive facility on Lakeshore?
LoL... Worked in one before (ETA- on Lakeshore), about to head back over to work in one again (ETA-also on Lakeshore).
The datacenters aren't bad in rural areas, mostly self contained, closed loop system... as long as they don't cause reliability with other commercial and residential services... I don't care.
Besides, we don't seem to be talking about the same thing... I'm talking Georgia politics; censorship, and punishment for speaking out --- which are pretty much issues we witness in the liberally run states.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:09 pm to captainFid
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we don't seem to be talking about the same thing... I'm talking Georgia politics;
definitely no argument here on that. From your post it sounded like you were equating having a data center with leaning left which I didn't quite understand.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:09 pm to wdhalgren
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I'm not aware of how much AI development will impact energy costs and water
It's not new news. Entergy is building multiple power plants to support the data center in Monroe, and they're only going to pay a third of the cost.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:13 pm to weagle1999
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How many data centers are near your house or trailer or apartment?
I guess that's the one advantage of having a "mobile home".
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:16 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:21 pm to wadewilson
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It's not new news. Entergy is building multiple power plants to support the data center in Monroe, and they're only going to pay a third of the cost.
I didn't say it wasn't going to require more energy. I said I don't know how much it will affect energy costs because costs depends on both supply and demand, among other factors. Also, AI may help develop technologies that lower the cost of producing electricity.
Those are all useful debates to have, but I'm still left with the conclusion that we can't afford to fall behind in the development of AI. What we don't need is foreign interests disseminating propaganda in an attempt to damage US security.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:21 pm to wadewilson
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I've read recently that China and Russia are promoting US campaigns against AI data centers. If true, we'll probably see a lot more controversy about this subject.
Which could also be misinformation to squash any dissent over proposed data centers.
Or China and Russia wanted to get caught. Reverse psychology.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:22 pm to Crimson Wraith
My in-laws lost 25+ acres of land to imminent domain to Uncle Sam's Corp of Engineers to "improve the habitat of the brown trout in the Provo River." They fought it for a decade, back in the late 80's through late 90's, but in the end they lost. They were compensated at about 30% of what the land is worth now but because the land was tied up in a trust it made it difficult to negotiate.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:23 pm to WG_Dawg
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definitely no argument here on that.
My comment "I don't get Georgia" is related to every thread we've had on them today... (why not redistrict, 17,000 votes suspect, shutting down social media accounts, forcing landowners to sale for the data center land).
To your comment - We in the southeast better get used to some of this. It may not be quite as nice as landing a automotive manufacturing facility, but it's still good for the region overall.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:26 pm to HubbaBubba
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… back in the late 80's through late 90's, but in the end they lost. They were compensated at about 30% of what the land is worth now”
Not for nothing, but investing that money wisely would have been a lot better return than keeping the land.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:53 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:the reduction of land cost them considerably since they raised cattle on it. They had to reduce herd size. It was the main reason they fought against it for so long. Nearby homesites next to the river, surrounded by mountains, are going for >$500k per acre. So losing 25 acres was really costly.
Not for nothing, but investing that money wisely would have been a lot better return than keeping the land.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:08 pm to kingbob
quote:This is not a KELO situation. The land for the data center was not taken.
KELO v. New London really needs to get overturned or massively reigned in.
The property at issue was taken as part of a typical powerline taking.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:18 pm to HubbaBubba
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the reduction of land cost them considerably since they raised cattle on it. They had to reduce herd size.
Fair enough.
Context and all that.
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