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re: Crusades are coming back to the west

Posted on 9/16/26 at 6:06 am to
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 6:06 am to
The Crusades achieved next to nothing outside of the first one and nearly bankrupted Europe so I don’t know what Wikipedia article you learned history from but it isn’t accurate. They besieged Constantinople during the 4th crusade nearly destroying it.
Posted by Rational
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 6:20 am to
Crusades also involved colonial settlement, economic exploitation, massacres of Jews,Muslims and Eastern Christians.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8043 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:24 am to
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Crusades also involved colonial settlement, economic exploitation, massacres of Jews,Muslims and Eastern Christians

And Lituanian pagans as well as the Cathars in southern France.

But

So?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
83983 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:29 am to
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I'm not interested in supporting blood thirsty Christians



They talk about how 20th century revisionist historians twisted and maligned the crusaders into something negative.

This is historical propaganda and you've bitten hard.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61812 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:30 am to
Take back Jerusalem

They didn’t earn it and don’t deserve it
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47589 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:31 am to
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Protestants aligned with Muslims to kill Catholics.
Are you referring to the Ottoman-Transylvania alliance meant to defend land and sovereignty against the Habsburgs?

If so, that had little to nothing to do with religion. Catholic France also allied with the Ottomans against the Habsburgs.

Martin Luther condemned Muslims (Turks), so there was no love for Islam from his side, at least.
Posted by rphtx
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Member since Apr 2018
1575 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:51 am to
Camp of Saints

Read this if you want to get an idea of what these folks mean to accomplish. It has religion weaved in, but it is more about how 3rd worlders (who happen to be mostly muslim) will easily take over this country quickly.
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