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re: Critical question looking back at 2020 election: Was it winnable for Trump?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:29 am to ChexMix
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:29 am to ChexMix
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Trump won in 2020, Dems stole the election. stop pretending otherwise
John Ham will say that it's Trump's fault that he didn't stop it from being stolen.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:31 am to Jon Ham
Do you have any idea how close the election was?
Even if you believe it was legit, do you realize Trump lost AZ, GA and WI by tiny fractions of 1%? Not 1%, fractions of 1%.
How many Biden voters in those 3 states were voting for Uncle Joe the moderate,the competent, the adult, the great uniter?
They were delivered more chaos, more incompetence, more division and a radical agenda they could not have even imagined.
Do you think they will do it again?
Even if you believe it was legit, do you realize Trump lost AZ, GA and WI by tiny fractions of 1%? Not 1%, fractions of 1%.
How many Biden voters in those 3 states were voting for Uncle Joe the moderate,the competent, the adult, the great uniter?
They were delivered more chaos, more incompetence, more division and a radical agenda they could not have even imagined.
Do you think they will do it again?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:33 am to NotSDvTiger
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Why does a guy polling at 12% in his own party think he can win?
His objective is not to win. His objective is to keep Trump from winning.
It's why all of his supporters (like the OP) post about Trump instead of Desantis himself. Everything is a hit piece.
It's easy to see when you take a step back.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:34 am to moneyg
Through voter harvesting Democrats will get 85 million votes in 24.
The only way to win is through a huge coalition of Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and Democrats who work 40 hours a week but make less than 120,000 a year to get 90 million votes.
I’m not sure anyone can build that coalition but I really don’t think Trump can build a coalition that large.
The only way to win is through a huge coalition of Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and Democrats who work 40 hours a week but make less than 120,000 a year to get 90 million votes.
I’m not sure anyone can build that coalition but I really don’t think Trump can build a coalition that large.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:35 am to ChexMix
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Trump won in 2020, Dems stole the election. stop pretending otherwise
What will keep them from stealing it again?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:40 am to Jon Ham
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So why is he acting like this time will be different?
Because the “swamp” has been exposed to the masses.
Because Biden and the Dems have shite on American’s of every background.
Because Biden is the party of Hank, and we have all had enough of Hank.
Still, I give him just a slight chance to overcome the mass frickery that will surely be take place again.
Trump / DeSantis 24 is the only chance imho.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:41 am to Gifman
Weird that the Democrats let Thom Tills, Joni Ernst, Tom Johnson, Susan Collins win in the Senate...
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:42 am to Jon Ham
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So why is he acting like this time will be different?
Why is Ron acting like it would be different? Does Ron believe 2020 was legit?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:43 am to Jon Ham
Trump received more votes than any other Republican candidate in the history of the USSR states but it’s just not good enough!!! He’s a failure - he’s a bad candidate!!
Give me a fricking break!
Give me a fricking break!
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:44 am to Jon Ham
That is the ONLY message he can use. "I lost but I want you to vote for me again" doesn't quite work.
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"The whole “it was rigged! stolen!” message would just be justification for him running again since if his base saw his loss as legitimate they would dump him for losing to fricking Biden. "
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"The whole “it was rigged! stolen!” message would just be justification for him running again since if his base saw his loss as legitimate they would dump him for losing to fricking Biden. "
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:46 am to FLTech
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FLTech
Trump received more votes than any other Republican candidate in the history of the USSR states but it’s just not good enough!!! He’s a failure - he’s a bad candidate!!
Give me a fricking break!
The landscape has changed. John McCain would've got 75 million.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:46 am to FLTech
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he’s a bad candidate!!
I'm not sure "bad" is a strong enough word for a moron that goes on national tv and admits to obstructing justice
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:47 am to wackatimesthree
Bottom line: Trump ain’t sitting in that chair so he lost.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:48 am to Jon Ham
Go serve your masters with a "Cleveland Steamer."
Trump won bigly.
These tools never stop.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:49 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Why is Ron acting like it would be different? Does Ron believe 2020 was legit?
Ron believes 2020 was winnable. He has already said he will not have excuses if he’s the nominee.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:52 am to jnethe1
The dems will double down and harvest even more ballots for 2024. No republican will win until voter IDs/in person voting are required in all 50 states.
Why is Trump running in 2024? Because I guess he feels that there is a slight chance he can pull this off without a “pandemic”?
I’m sure there will be another created “crisis” in order to further the cheating process.
Why is Trump running in 2024? Because I guess he feels that there is a slight chance he can pull this off without a “pandemic”?
I’m sure there will be another created “crisis” in order to further the cheating process.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:52 am to Jon Ham
Argument for: several states have made serious efforts to clean up electioneering, and with no covid to hind behind, it will be difficult for the same level of cheating to steal a victory again.
Argument against: these electoral changes failed to happen in the largest and most important “swing” states like Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan. In which case, voting for Trump isn’t about winning so much as it is “sending a message”, even if we, as an electorate, have already lost our democratic republican form of government to a fascist kleptocratic oligarchy.
So, either we still have a chance to win an election with Trump, or we have no chances of winning any federal elections ever (no matter whom the nominee is) because they’re all rigged, but voting for Trump shows the ruling regime how deeply unpopular they are, i.e. a protest vote.
Argument against: these electoral changes failed to happen in the largest and most important “swing” states like Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan. In which case, voting for Trump isn’t about winning so much as it is “sending a message”, even if we, as an electorate, have already lost our democratic republican form of government to a fascist kleptocratic oligarchy.
So, either we still have a chance to win an election with Trump, or we have no chances of winning any federal elections ever (no matter whom the nominee is) because they’re all rigged, but voting for Trump shows the ruling regime how deeply unpopular they are, i.e. a protest vote.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:52 am to Auy2k
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I’m sure there will be another created “crisis” in order to further the cheating process
Listen to yourself.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:54 am to kingbob
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So, either we still have a chance to win an election with Trump, or we have no chances of winning any federal elections ever
The GOP won multiple elections to federal office, including some toss ups, in the last election?
And the one before that.
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