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re: Conspiracy theories will continue to be problem for Republicans moving forward

Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:32 am to
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1858 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:32 am to
A couple of weeks before Kelce/Swift were a thing, I remember a post-game interview with Kelce that caught my attention.

It was the usual post-game types of questions, and then the female interviewer prompted Kelce with an obviously planted question. Something to the effect of, I hear you are a big Taylor Swift fan. It was the weirdest thing and obviously staged. Kelce replied on cue that he had gone to the concert and even got back stage to meet her and left her a rubber wrist bracelet with his phone number on it.

At the time, I just thought it was weird, and then a few weeks later, the NFL is all in on their newest celeb fan. Not orchestrated in any way though. Lol
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 7:33 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:37 am to
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Our government was actually running military grade weapons across the border to cartels...those weapons were used to kill border agents and NOBODY was held accountable. Only a fool would believe even half of what the government tells you


The Democrats assured me this never happened....
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37423 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:43 am to
Think about it, Biden has been in Washington since before Watergate as such, just by his very presence has been integral in shaping the political and policy landscape we live in whether it be foreign policy or legal policy formation. He knows where the bodies are buried, because he had a part in burying them as such he has an advantage in being able to use the structures in place to his advantage.

Republicans play the react game and have been since Clinton outflanked them in the 90s by being almost seemless policy wise with Reagan and HW Bush. It left Republicans bitching about what amounted to a 5-8 percentage pont spread in tax rates as opposed to Reagan taking down tax rates by over 30 percentage points. MAGA is the embodiment of your reactive assertion of Republicans, but also it's in the conservative nature.....slow incremental change at best.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68769 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:48 am to
The curren Right sometimes sounds
Exactly like the Berkeley college students of the 60’s. I’ve noticed that for quite awhile now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298316 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:51 am to
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The curren Right sometimes sounds
Exactly like the Berkeley college students of the 60’s. I’ve noticed that for quite awhile now.


The Russian Collusion hoax didnt disturb you?

The covering up of Hunters Laptop didnt disturb you?

The modern left seems very reminiscent of The Red Guard in 1960s China.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13269 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:52 am to
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Verifiably false, I'd add.


Then verify it using your post to me.

Because it sure read to me like you are part of the exact mindset I described.

If not, exactly how do you differ from the group I was describing?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13269 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:55 am to
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So one should cast environmental and interactional experiences aside. One should forget yesterday's lessons, even at the expense of repeating disappointment and failure.

Nah, that is silly. There are some folks whom you know are lying even if the TV is muted. Their lips are moving ... therefore they are lying. Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Joy Reid, etc., etc.


You can read the underlined word and sharpen up on your English skills and maybe you'll understand why your post was a strawman.

If not, sorry, but I don't have time to teach remedial reading comprehension.

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The whole point is that you shouldn't be believing or disbelieving a narrative purely based on who is telling it to you
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:01 am to
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. The whole point is that you shouldn't be believing or disbelieving a narrative purely based on who is telling it to you,


Alex Jones is relieved to hear this.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11596 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:11 am to
You eventually get to a point of disfunction and paranoia, and that’s true for a person or a tribe. When you get consumed by conspiracies, biblical prophecies etc,

It’s currently happening to the GOP to a large degree. I see symptoms of it on this board, daily.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138550 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:09 am to
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Then verify it using your post to me.
What 'post' are you referring to?
e.g., Here is an earlier post/exchange of mine.
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The only one you listed that's actually a conspiracy theory


and there it is. Time to tweak and confabulate definitions.
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a flimsy argument could be made for the second one [Covid-19 was NOT created in a lab!]
WTF are you talking about?

You honestly believe SARS-CoV-2 is a natural zoonosis? Name the source!
There is virtually no evidence of a SARS-CoV-2 animal origin. None!

I could list a half dozen prog yarns on the topic of CV19 alone, and another half dozen on the Bidens. Holding an opinion against any of those is labeled by leftists as conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theory
51 ex-intel officials got together and lied -- CONSPIRACY!
Dominion Voting Machines are vulnerable -- CONSPIRACY!
Biden extorted the dismissal of Ukraine's Prosecutor General to help Burisma -- CONSPIRACY!
Trump never paid hookers to pee on a bed in Moscow -- CONSPIRACY!
The MSM is filled with lying leftist hacks -- CONSPIRACY!
Twitter, Facebook, etc took significant measures to promote Biden and silence his opposition -- CONSPIRACY!
Fauci's cloth masks were nothing but performance art -- CONSPIRACY!
Fauci funded Chinese GOF work at the WIV -- CONSPIRACY!
The CDC's directives allowing public schools to remain shuttered were political, not scientific -- CONSPIRACY!
FBI and LEO agents substantially infiltrated the J6 crowd -- CONSPIRACY!
The Whitmer kidnapping fantasy was a Fed set up -- CONSPIRACY!

etc, etc, etc.
None of those are "conspiracy theory." They are either established fact or very very high probability. Correct?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:18 am to
Well ... watching KC on offense is like watching bama on offense. Everyone other than the refs can see the holds.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298316 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:20 am to
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I see symptoms of it on this board, daily.


I dont believe most people can entertain a thought without accepting it as truth.

See Gender ideology for example, or systematic racism.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49490 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:22 am to
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quote:
So one should cast environmental and interactional experiences aside. One should forget yesterday's lessons, even at the expense of repeating disappointment and failure.

Nah, that is silly. There are some folks whom you know are lying even if the TV is muted. Their lips are moving ... therefore they are lying. Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Joy Reid, etc., etc.
NC Tiger words /\
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your words \/
You can read the underlined word and sharpen up on your English skills and maybe you'll understand why your post was a strawman.

If not, sorry, but I don't have time to teach remedial reading comprehension.

you done stepped on your dick son.

You must wake up in a brand new world - making these kind of allegations about perhaps the most honest person on the board.

You might want to inform the board of the example you are referencing in this statement
quote:

I don't have time to teach remedial reading comprehension


I don't know you - but you are not making any sense at all.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49490 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:27 am to

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MAGA is the embodiment of your reactive assertion of Republicans, but also it's in the conservative nature.....slow incremental change at best.


true - we'd LIKE to make huge changes immediately, but lack the political power to get it done, and - it is not our basic nature

There are SOME items where wholesale changes must be made, but only in reaction to even more gigantic missteps by the DEMs = ie getting things back to normalcy.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:31 am to
Considering Georgia elected two libs and Joe Biden, you being a Georgia fan is fitting. I want to believe you aren’t as stupid as your posts but I have my doubts
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138550 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:15 am to
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I want to believe you aren’t as stupid as your posts but I have my doubts
Ripped & torn.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:17 am to
Moderates and normies aren’t following insane internet conspiracy theories. They are a good thing because they get weirdos and dummies motivated to vote for the good guys and pass unnoticed by well adjusted people
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9342 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:40 am to
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The Russian Collusion hoax didnt disturb you?

The covering up of Hunters Laptop didnt disturb you?

The modern left seems very reminiscent of The Red Guard in 1960s China.



Which is kookiest?

A) The Russian Collusion

B) the Clintons and Obamas drinking the blood of children in satanic rituals?

C) Hunter Biden's laptop
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22663 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:57 am to
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Narrowly avoided a stressful homicide trial beginning yesterday morning. Ultimately resolved the matter by way of amicable plea negotiations.

Depending on how November goes, I may need your services. Let's stay in touch.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36551 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:59 am to
Deny til you die, brotha. And I’ll take it from there.
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