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re: Conspiracy theories will continue to be problem for Republicans moving forward

Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:48 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:48 am to
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The whole point is that you shouldn't be believing or disbelieving a narrative purely based on who is telling it to you
So one should cast environmental and interactional experiences aside. One should forget yesterday's lessons, even at the expense of repeating disappointment and failure.

Nah, that is silly. There are some folks whom you know are lying even if the TV is muted. Their lips are moving ... therefore they are lying. Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Joy Reid, etc., etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:49 am to
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Not really. It’s still speculation


Speculating is fine, the problem is when the speculators pick an alternative on the opposite extreme and present it as truth.

Anyone can patch together a few random occurrences and make a sensible sounding theory. They most likely still arent true.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69364 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:52 am to
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MAGA types NEED conspiracy theories.


lol, you fools are still pushing Putin is going to hack the election. Going to doctor some more emails and load up some dossiers in case Trump wins?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:54 am to
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lol, you fools are still pushing Putin is going to hack the election


I was one of Trumps biggest defenders throughout the Russian Collusion shite.

But I know he pushes equally stupid conspiracies on his people.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69364 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:55 am to
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Speculating is fine, the problem is when the speculators pick an alternative on the opposite extreme and present it as truth. Anyone can patch together a few random occurrences and make a sensible sounding theory. They most likely still arent true.


Come on.

Michelle Obama running for president isn’t a conspiracy.

I’m am certain a lot of democrat voters would even support it.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:57 am to
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Michelle Obama running for president isn’t a conspiracy.


If you claim its going to happen, you bet it is.

If you present it as a possibility, then its not
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 6:58 am to
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Nah, that is silly. There are some folks whom you know are lying even if the TV is muted. Their lips are moving ... therefore they are lying. Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Joy Reid, etc., etc.


Our entire existence is wrapped in lies and fables. None of us would work if we figured out reality.

Just carrots dangled to keep the masses happy. Its all fake to keep you buying shite and employing people.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:03 am to
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Again, do you speak English?
"Again"?
Am I missing something? But, yes, I'm quite comfortable speaking English.
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that's not how y'all apply your stated rule
Perhaps it's you who suffers the English understanding issue?
When you say "y'all," and direct your assertion to me, it's personally inclusional. As it's personally inclusional, it is a false assertion on your part. Verifiably false, I'd add.
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The truth is that you believe what you want to believe and disregard what you don't.
Makes for a good lyric in "The Boxer," but no, truth is not a matter of belief. Truth is truth. Truth is a matter of fact, as are lies.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69364 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:05 am to
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If you claim its going to happen, you bet it is. If you present it as a possibility, then its no


A shite load of people don’t believe they can continue with Biden.


And thinking swift will support Biden isn’t a conspiracy either. She already previously has.

A conspiracy is more like we didn’t land on the moon, or plains didn’t fly into the twin towers. Where it would take some huge coverup.

There might even be a faction that has pushed her name to the dnc.




This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 7:11 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:06 am to
Now what isnt a conspiracy theory is "The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution."

There is no doubt social engineers are up to no good and simply use issues to move public perception. Thats reality, not theory.

Issues are just voter traps, these people have much more nefarious purposes.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 7:07 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16371 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:08 am to
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He's not your buddy, pal!


He's not your pal, guy!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:10 am to
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And thinking swift will support Biden isn’t a conspiracy either.


No, its not.

But its ridiculous for any serious human being to get caught up in that pop culture gossip.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101969 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:14 am to
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quote:

Michelle Obama running for president isn’t a conspiracy.

If you claim its going to happen, you bet it is.


Right. Is anyone really going to pretend, if that actually occurs, it was purely “organic”?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:15 am to
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Right. Is anyone really going to pretend, if that actually occurs, it was purely “organic”?



Probably not, some turn out to be true.

But most are still uneducated guesses with several loose facts thrown in the mix.

I love conspiracy theories. I just dont really believe most. I can entertain as possibilities, not fact
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 7:16 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28068 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:18 am to
Or you can see that both sides are engaging in gamesmanship on certain issues like the border and foreign policy along with our not realizing some of the realities present there both physically and procedurally that both sides exploit for political gain to obtain votes....not necessarily solve or address anything.

In the case of the border, everyone can see that it's a problem and the flow of illegal entry is potentially destabilizing. Yet no one wants to work together on a subject that affects Democrats and Republicans and has ramifications far beyond activity at the border. Democrats could put a clamp at entry points like Eagle Pass, etc,but they don't. Republicans could work to clarify things like guest workers and narrow the asylum laws/ rules to limit the flow, but they don't...really

On foreign policy both sides are acting like the Three Stooges bumbling their way through confrontation to crisis at least outwardly. Although overall, it is the one point that has been the most consistent through Democrat and Republican Administrations.

I personally don't think Biden and his handlers/advisors are incompetent. I think his people are cold calculating "realists" when it comes to playing pitch and wielding power. They are incredibly cynical in their approach to average people and because of that they deserve to lose. But they drew the MAGA card and they have been successful in using the MAGA tag on their opposition and the MAGA types show themselves to be less than serious. Think about it, aside from the Presidential part of 2020 and 2022, the Democrats should have been swamped irrespective of the help the press gives Democrats, but Republicans shoot themselves in the foot with the candidates they run and the stunts they pull .
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:19 am to
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So one should cast environmental and interactional experiences aside.


Never, EVER trust your lying eyes...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263210 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:21 am to
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I personally don't think Biden and his handlers/advisors are incompetent. I think his people are cold calculating "realists" when it comes to playing pitch and wielding power. They are incredibly cynical in their approach to average people and because of that they deserve to lose.


I think this is true.

The left does so much damage because the do have true believers embedded who are orchestrating long term change.

Left: True believers
Right: Opportunists.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69364 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:21 am to
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No, its not. But its ridiculous for any serious human being to get caught up in that pop culture gossip.


Well that means none of us posting in this thread are serious humans.

I’m okay with that. I’m just glad you agree with me.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:25 am to
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Well that means none of us posting in this thread are serious humans.

I’m okay with that. I’m just glad you agree with me.


Haha...amen.....

Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2326 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:30 am to
Well some of this is fringe stuff. Is all of MAGA to be held responsible because one thread on a message board?

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Idiot nonsense is believing that the government can create/control the weather


The US military absolutely did manipulate the weather during the Vietnam war. It has the capability and while it may seem ridiculous to talk about...the government has shown themselves capable of extremities

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Similarly, several posters here recently revealed that they think the moon landings were faked.


While I personally believe they did...there are a lot of strange things about it. Id suggest watching the Why Files episode on it.

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And I have seen enough hinting comments to be willing to bet you a hundo that some significant number of posters here believe in some version of the Zionist World Illuminati.


There 1000% is an illuminati organization as well as other organizations where elite wealthy people meet to push their agendas. This is pretty much a fact. You can debate how much power they have...but to deny the existence is more kooky than not.

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I'll also guarantee you that some significant percentage of people here believe some version of the theory that mass shooting victims are crisis actors and/or the events are false flags.


Ok well the govt DOES use crisis actors. If they didnt demonstrate that they are capable of extreme evil on a routine basis, people wouldnt question everything. They muddy the water of fact and fiction and count on people like you to shout down people asking questions.

Our government was actually running military grade weapons across the border to cartels...those weapons were used to kill border agents and NOBODY was held accountable. Only a fool would believe even half of what the government tells you
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