Conservative Environmentalism

It wouldn’t be polarized if they weren’t lying out their arse

Free enterprise leaning folks end up in industry and understand business and the need for profit. Regulatory leaning folks tend to be idealistic and when given an opportunity become activists as opposed to regulators. They don’t understand that the regulated industry is actually paying all the bills by passing on the costs to the consumer if possible. The regulators tend to advocate for more regulatory control which in turn gives them more power and the believe that they are really making a difference.

Common sense fails to win the day and entire industries move overseas to avoid the cost of regulatory control. We have to find a better way. The global warming concept is lacking in scientific truth to be the mantra. Nevertheless global warming seems to drive much of the ideology.

Conservatives tend to be outdoorsmen like mentioned earlier. Conservatives are more attached to the environment than most liberal folks.

I honestly cannot name anyone in my conservative friends group that openly disagree or do not want to take care of the environment.

From a people perspective, I think a lot of people do not buy into the green energy story because, and you can do your own research on this, most of it is a lie. This is regarding windmill, solar, and hydroelectric alternatives because all of these rely on there to still be a fossil fuel backup to cover the losses.

The other part of that is the electric cars and whatnot. I do have a few people I know that swear they will never transition to electric vehicles but right now its just not cost effective.

Also, from being in IT and that realm for so long, I do not think the electric, battery only using crowd realize what happens to a majority of the waste from batteries and other e-waste. It is hardly recycled, and a lot of it that claims to be able to be reclaimed is actually sent overseas to 3rd world country landfills.

I guess I said all of that to say, Conservatives I know want there to be a reliable, practical use case that is efficient and readily available compared to high cost, unreliable means of green energy that cannot be counted on.

I know that sounds like a ramble but just being honest. I cant think of anyone that enjoys seeing trash on the highway and rural roads, and loss of land resources due to poor industrial practices.

I buy my hunting license and tags so that the game and fisheries can do their thing conserving the natural environment. I also regularly assist keeping the wildlife populations healthy and in check.

Name something your leftist groups do besides belly ache about green deals, buy into EV lies and push for renewable energy like it has no downsides. Last I checked EV components and materials are environmentally devastating to manufacturer, destructive to wildlife and mined lands, put higher loads on energy needs, and are unrecyclable.

ETA they are typically vegans so in their heads that helps if you believe cow farts are destroying the planet. But it does take an awful lot of water and fertilizer so I think it evens out in the end

We have a responsibility to be good stewards of the natural resources that God has given to us. Most conservatives are in favor of practical solutions to preserve the environment. Those on the left tend to favor government regulation.

The polarization of environmentalism is based on the false narrative that eliminating our current fuel sources for green fuel sources is inherently the answer to our environmental issue, and that the timeline to do that needs to be pushed up despite green fuel sources not being able to handle that much of the economy yet. Conservatives would rather a slow and smooth transition, leftists want to force the issue and have a rough transition to speed it up

I love duck and deer. They are delicious.

I’ve had jobs where I had to pick up others trash and I truly despise litter bugs. Traveling to places like Vancouver let you know how trashy La can be.

I own a few acres in the Felicianas. Those pine trees are part of my retirement in ten years. It will be replanted and left to my boys. My form of recycling.

I’ve observed a wide variety of wild life in a deer stand. A momma bobcat and two kittens, otters, coons chipmunks and many others. Best day I ever had deer hunting was when my youngest son got his first buck, A young six and my older son got a good nine point. I didn’t even see one until I looked for those two.

Liberals love to tell you great plans but rarely follow through with realistic workable plans. Many cities defunded their police. How many have improved their situation with reimagined police forces. We should listen to any idea to improve a system but shouldn’t leave when the work gets hard.

Bernie’s story about getting kicked out of the commune is typical. It seems Bernie only wanted to stand around and debate policies and politics. He never wanted to get his hands dirty to do the work to make the commune function.

The earth has been having ice ages approximately every twenty thousand years. The last was ten thousand years ago. At one time the scientific consensus was the earth was flat and the center of the universe.

Most (not all) conservatives subscribe to the Genesis "Dominion over all" and consider they are entrusted with responsible stewardship over the Earth. This is exercised in the manners already expressed.

The Marxist Left has coopted the Green Movement for their ideological "fundamental change". A lot well-intentioned folk have bought into the Dem "Climate Change" narrative knowing the kind and manner of 'controls' that have to be implemented utterly are counter to the Individual Rights codified in Constitutional Principle. They believe that they serve the 'common' (Collectivist) good.

It's all about control and power. In a Worldly Realm, it always will be; though there may be periods of exceptional enlightenment and Worldly/Spititual prosperity.

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Given this board's right lean, understandable skepticism of climate alarmists, and my experience that conservatives, too, care about the environment, I'd like to better understand the conservative viewpoints on the personal, governmental, and corporate roles as stewards of the environment and natural resources.

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the day i stopped recycling is the day they stopped paying me for aluminum and glass.


i'm not here to do charity work for BIG GREEN companies who profit off my labor. pay me to recycle instead of guilting me into it and i'll reconsider.

eta when i was a kid we COMBED the streets and woods around our house for 5 cent coke bottles and 10 cent 32oz bottles. i guaran-frickING-tee you there wasn't a single discarded glass bottle on the ground within a 5 square mile area around me growing up.



my grandmother in the 1970s was ZERO EMISSIONS. she swapped her coca cola and chocolate soldiers by the crate. we would finish off a crate (filling it with empties as we drank them) then she would put the crate in the trunk of her car; back up to coca cola bottler and they would swap it out for a crate of new cokes.

zero trash. 50 fricking years ago.

my grandmother also was the head of the local garden club in monroe and she was single-handedly responsible for a SHITTON of trees and green spaces being created.

guess what? everyone frickING LOVED TO DO IT. every business in town was on board and generous with their money, time and labor to make it happen.

in other words frick YOUR VIRTUE SIGNALLING. my grandmother was a better "environmentalist" 50 years ago.